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@Jarkko & Aldo: I am starting to do the edited scen soonish, so your changes will go in. Please have them in the original versions though, it's easier to do characters when you don't need to dig out their traits in five different posts. :D

EDIT: Oh yes, deadline for characters / edits at them is 16:00 CET today.
 
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@Jarkko allright understandable.

@Byak would you allow my char anyway? As I hardly see its bad with those traits? Else I have to redo him, not to mention the fact I will most likely be AI all session :(
 

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Byakhiam said:
@Jarkko & Aldo: I am starting to do the edited scen soonish, so your changes will go in. Please have them in the original versions though, it's easier to do characters when you don't need to dig out their traits in five different posts. :D
Ok, post edited.

@Devil Your character has one positive trait and one negative trait, which is perfectly ok. But he has also four 0-point traits which all give an edge at something :) Of course if Byak accepts it, then it is his decission, but I think it would be fair then to throw the rules out of the window for everybody else too.
 

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@Devil: Are you going to be able to join us in next sessions? Also, I'd not rather bend the rules, because as Jarkko says, rules that are not equal to all are not entirely fair.
 

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@Byak and Jarkko: I posted in the other thread, but mainly my question is what is bad with having a lot of 0 point traits, since they are 0 point they must have the same advantage as disadvantage?
 

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@Devil: Well, mostly it's about drawing a line somewhere, because if there would be no limit on amount of traits one can have as long as they add up to 4 traitpoints, there could be additional min-maxing and powergaming by taking all kinds of slightly bad traits and taking good traits in exchange and so on. Also there is for example honest-suspicious combination which gives you +1 intrigue in total, though on the price of being disliked and the main cause for not having all characters with 'em is that it would use up your whole trait limit. Also the disadvantage and advantage of different traits varies on things like whether or not character is a ruler, whether or not he has vassals and so on.
 

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Count:
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 398 } ##???
dyn = 3
tag = C111
name = "Philippe"
date = "10480101"
gender = male
religion = catholic
culture = "frankish"
score = { gold = 0.000 prestige = 0.000 piety = 0.000 }
attributes = {
martial = 6.000
diplomacy = 6.000
intrigue = 8.000
stewardship = 7.000
health = 7.000
fertility = 6.000
}
traits = { sceptical = yes lustful = yes Intricate_Webweaver = yes }
loyalty = 1
dna = "05546113141006"
}

dynasty = {
id = { type = 12 id = 3 }
name = "de Villeneuve"
province = { 111 112 }
}

tag = C111

wife:
name = "Ingrid"
date = "10480101"
martial = 6.000
diplomacy = 5.000
intrigue = 4.000
stewardship = 9.000
health = 8.000
fertility = 8.000
gender = female
religion = catholic
culture = "frankish"
Midas Touched, clubfooted, sceptical
dna = "68249850441014"
 
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Scen is done. You may not DL it, but as it's in handy VNet transferrable eug form, it's not strictly necessary, just speeds up the starting. It does not go into save games folder, but directly into scenarios folder.

EDIT: DL is here again
 
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i really should get crusader trait
 

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good session with combined effords of the county of yperen , duke of flandern , king of france and several others the city of jerusalem fell aswell as alexandria

other good new sis that jerusalem after the count payed 500gold ,finaly converted to catholicism the holy city is once again catholic i think that should give me some prestige ;)
 
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admiral drake said:
other good new sis that jerusalem after the count payed 500gold ,finaly converted to catholicism the holy city is once again catholic i think that should give me some prestige ;)

Like that 1000 or so prestige you already got from capturing Jerusalem was not enough? :D
 

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Byakhiam said:
Like that 1000 or so prestige you already got from capturing Jerusalem was not enough? :D
Not to mention once the current revolt there is over Jerusalem won't be hit by religious revolt anymore :)
 

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Byakhiam said:
Like that 1000 or so prestige you already got from capturing Jerusalem was not enough? :D


the 1000 was nice .......but spend it on getting claims of brabant/liege/gent/lduke of luxembourg
 

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admiral drake said:
the 1000 was nice .......but spend it on getting claims of brabant/liege/gent/lduke of luxembourg

So now you need more prestige to get even more claims. ;)
 

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Byakhiam said:
So now you need more prestige to get even more claims. ;)

1000prestige is addictive :wacko:
 

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devil said:
Sorry I won't continue in this game, didn't know crusading was allowed, my fault for not checking the rules. Have a fun game. :)
Crusading for the targets Pope gives is very different from the "free" crusading in pre-beta CK.