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fatedkoga

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I'm not totally against the idea but when your council wont let you give land to a council member because he and everyone else traded favors with that one jackass who is malcontent. It makes me want to throw my laptop into the wall.

Council: YOU HAVE TOO MUCH LAND!!
Me: Then you can have some.
Council: NO!!
Me: Why not?
Council: YOU HAVE TOO MUCH LAND!!

Playing a Khaganate is like babysitting toddlers.
 
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I'm not having a problem with it myself. Sometimes, you just have to suck up that tyranny penalty, absorb the clans which rebel and replace them with other, more loyal clans.
 

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I'm not having a problem with it myself. Sometimes, you just have to suck up that tyranny penalty, absorb the clans which rebel and replace them with other, more loyal clans.
Honestly I'm not to worried about rebellions, being 5x the size on the next largest clan. The constant civil wars are just annoying. Invade Bulgaria, civil war, invade Poland, civil war, succession, civil war, invade Germany, civil war, Crusade civil war combo.
 

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While it's true that councils and Nomads don't really work that well, Nomads can pretty much ignore the council. Because:

1. You'll never have a problem with your nomad vassals. They all use mixed LC/HA units, crippling their potential strength against you before you even factor in the fact that the player will always have the best land in which to boost manpower further. Further, it's easy to blitz Nomads for warscore.
2. The same applies to Feudal/Tribal Vassals in terms of military strength. Once you get anywhere from 5k to 10k total Horde strength, you pretty much can wipe all but Holy Order stacks or a grouped up Abbasid/Byzzie force. After 20k and up, nothing in the game can beat you unless you mess up.
3. Favors are pretty much useless in a Nomad realm. There are no laws that are important to push for, unless you really really want to play nice with feudal vassals. I often play a little minigame with my council full of Khans of "what will happen with this vote and all these undecided positions?". Bounce up and down the obligations screen for a few hundred years.

If you really don't want to worry about the council, just request whatever needed council support before you give out land. Give it to your weakest clan. Rinse and repeat. All my councils are usually really good about letting me give out land. It only falls apart when you start accruing tyranny and everyone becomes a malcontent voter.