Council never starts vote

[M@ni@c]

I've bought Conclave a while ago and so far played a game with it for nearly 200 years. In that time, despite having Malcontent Council members having a favor on me, not once have my councillors attempted to start a vote to repeal a law that gives me more power over them. Is this a normal experience, or something weird with me individually?

In the common/council_voting folder, it's possible to change how councillors will vote on law votes started by me. But is it also possible to mod the likelihood of them starting votes on certain issues?

 

[sigeena]

Odd. I have the somewhat opposite experience. They tend to move to vote for empowering council and the like. Which is why I'm wary of giving away favors as liege.

 

[Gorgonkain]

I defiantly have had vassals call in favors to change laws. Sometimes it is to increase council power, but quite frequently it has been to institute tax focused tribal obligations, despite having no tribal holdings in or near the realm >.>

 

[cheetar]

I defiantly have had vassals call in favors to change laws. Sometimes it is to increase council power, but quite frequently it has been to institute tax focused tribal obligations, despite having no tribal holdings in or near the realm >.>

That is lucky for you

 

[Sergeant Flutter]

Odd. I have the somewhat opposite experience. They tend to move to vote for empowering council and the like. Which is why I'm wary of giving away favors as liege.

This. ^

Do you have any mods? Is it running smoothly? etc

 

[Harassercat]

I very recently had a councillor force a vote for more council power on me. The annoying thing about it is that I had just negotiated council support from this guy and could easily have bought his favor back for 80g. I assumed that while under the effect of the favor (the 36 months of council support), they would not be able to force a law change vote, which is more intuitive given that they're force to always vote as I do. But no, apparently councillors can do that so I learnt from the experience.

I also recently learnt that although your councillors can take advantage of "favor chains", i.e. malcontent councillor A gets support from councillor B who happens to have support from councillors C and D and then all four vote against you, then it seems you cannot do the same. I negotiated council support from a malcontent guy who had support from three other councillors, thinking that I'd swing all four of them my way; but no, only the malcontent voted my way and then the others would vote against me at all times because they owed a favor to the malcontent one.... whaaat? So they respect the a$$hole's malcontentness regardless of how he actually votes? Okay, go Conclave! I have this situation all the time now because of a wealthy vassal doge in my council who's malcontent half the time and has the money to buy favors left and right to support his poor attitude. Makes me regret setting up that vassal merchant republic really.

 

[M@ni@c]

Hmm, I think my different experience may comes from the fact I don't mind having a mostly empowered council, and letting them vote on imprisonment, banishment etc.

Does the council ever start votes to reverse realm laws though? I mean stuff like title revokation rules, status of women, centralization... For instance my game is as a Manichean Uyghur conquering into Buddhist lands, and I am disappointed none of my Buddhist councillors ever tried to revoke the "free title revokation from infidels" law while they still had the power to do so.