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I am the elected King of England, I have just created the crown of wales and set it to Primogeniture but don't seem able to set laws as there is no council for Wales, how do I go about setting one?
 

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I would like to know this also. King of Burgundy, Germany, and Aquitaine, have laws for Burgundy, none for Germany or Aquitaine...other than crown laws, which the council votes on, but I can't revoke council power, cuz no laws available. Huh?
 

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No, they are not "following suit". The laws for Aquitaine are different from Burgundy (in my game, don't mean to hijack op's thread).
 

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I am the elected King of England, I have just created the crown of wales and set it to Primogeniture but don't seem able to set laws as there is no council for Wales, how do I go about setting one?


Each kingdom has its own crown laws (which are "controled realm inheritance" and "investiture" for CONCLAVE and "Crown authority" and "investiture" for NON-CONCLAVE) AND inheritance laws, which can be viewed by clicking on the kingdom-level shield in the "Laws Tab".

General civic laws (role of women, centralization, etc.), Vassal obligations and Council laws are tied to your primary title and are applied to your whole realm.

In your specific case, all the laws of the Kingdom of England are also applied to the lands of the Kingdom of Wales, with the exception of crown laws and inheritance laws.
 
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General civic laws (role of women, centralization, etc.), Vassal obligations and Council laws are tied to your primary title and are applied to your whole realm.

Then why did my council vote against Controlled Inheritance Law in Aquitaine when it is already in force in my primary kingdom of Burgundy? I'm confused.

AQU_Council Law.jpg BURG_Council Law.jpg
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Then why did my council vote against Controlled Inheritance Law in Aquitaine when it is already in force in my primary kingdom of Burgundy? I'm confused.

because they didn't feel like it? I don't get what you mean...as i said, the crown laws of each kingdom are independent from each other. Controlled realm inheritance IS a crown law.

Shebaloso said it. Every king/empire title has its own inheritance laws (e.g you could have gavelkind in Aquitaine, but feudal-elective in Bavaria), his own investiture laws and his own crown authority/coltrolled realm laws (without/with conclave). All other laws (obligations, council, centralization laws and status of women) are tied to your primary title and are applied to all other titles.
 

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I understand crown laws and succession laws apply to each title separately, that's why I have the option to change them in each kingdom. However, if, as you say, the other laws are supposed to follow my primary title, then --- why did the council even vote on the law I tried to change --- since, in my primary title, the council has no vote? Council power being among the laws you guys are saying should follow my primary title. "Because they didn't fell like it" is not an answer in this case.
 
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Ohh, now i'm getting you. I misunderstood your question, sorry. I just tried to reenact what happened to you and, indeed, the council is allowed to vote on laws for secondary kingdoms (your primary kingdom is the one which contains the the capital of your realm) even though having been abolished. I actually don't know if this is working as intended. Perhaps you should file a bug report in the respective section.
 

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I fixed it. I had to switch primary titles, once I did that, the new one had the same council laws as the first. Then, I just switched back. It's working properly now, but that seems a bit of a wonky workaround.

For the op...secondary titles, like if you have 2 or more kingdoms, do not display council laws or vassal obligation laws. They SHOULD mirror your primary title, but to be safe, cycle through your highest tier titles as your primary title, checking the laws to be sure it's what you want, then select your original title as primary and you should be good to go.
 
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I fixed it. I had to switch primary titles, once I did that, the new one had the same council laws as the first. Then, I just switched back. It's working properly now, but that seems a bit of a wonky workaround.
That seems like it's not WAD (the secondary title was still running on its previous holder's Council laws when it should have automatically switched to yours). I'd put in a bug report.