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Carlos of Spain is most wise and France is pleased to accept.

To Zygamunt of Poland

You are on your own, I cannot help you. May GOD smile on your armies in battle.

 

[Casluerj]

The King of Poland shall speak :
I, king of The Great Polish Empire, am prounded to live in the same world that the Wise King of The Great French Empire lives. If there were more persons with your wisdom in the world, maybe europe would be a peaceful place. I, The King of Poland, thanks Your Majesty for your neutrality in an unfair war that Austria want to make against my Empire.

To the King of Spain:

I, King of Poland, think that our two Great Empires may live in this world in peace. The Polish Empire is prepared to offer to you a Trade Ageement so spanish merchants may get profits in one of the most rich Center of Trade in Europe - Danzig. I think that the bravery spanish people would like to live in peace with the polish people. In peace we have nothing but profits! But if you take a decision that does not correspond to the tradicion of The Great Spanish Empire and their people, our two great empires will loose lot of ours treasury in a unholy war. Do not be a pet of The Habsburg Empire, Spain does not need this. Viva La España!!!

Signed by the Great Poland King

 

[Jove]

Protocol of Swedish Affairs

Protocol of Swedish Affairs

Prepared at the request of King Gustav Vasa

Vol. 1, No. 1




This document classified



As you requested a summation and report to my lord and King, Gustav Vasa. We have done much to champion the dreams of our people.

We have thrown off the terrible yoke of repression from those from our Danish overlords. While this caused much disturbance in the land from those traitors would have us bow low to a any but the rightful ruler of our land.

The rebels that sought to bring our former repressors back to power did besiege our capital, but through the superiority of Swedish arms. The steps we took after those nobles tried to hand over our God given rights to another were harsh and we were forced to “remove” those elements.

Of course my lord, this was done in such a way as your enlightened crown of the north would neither see a single blemish nor flawed stone.

The wise alliance that you have brought our nation into allowed us to punish those whom once held us under the yoke. It is with great joy and fanfare that your victory parade was head as you lead your victorious army back to its home.

It must be noted the chapters of valour written by our Polish friends to the south as they persuaded much of the Danish dark alliance’s forces to the southern shores of the Baltic. Through the Brandenburgers made off with much of the spoils, it is thought that Poland did gain much in gold.

Soon it will not be long till we have our all our brothers in your progressive Empire.

Though as you know, we are deeply concerned by the rumblings of a general confrontation between the influential Hapsburgs and our friend and ally Poland.

We must await developments on this matter. It is the belief of your War Council that we see where your close friend the Tsar stands on this matter before military or diplomatic plans are carried out.

May the people of our glorious nation never forget your wise leadership.

 

[Jove]

Diplomatic Attaché’ Message

Diplomatic Attaché’ Message

To the King of France, Gloria, in excelsis and his most worthy advisors



It is with great joy in our heart and praise on our lips that we have heard of your declaration of neutrality. For we see no reason to become embroiled in the affairs of those states in Western Europe such as your own. We are also pleased that you have come to an understanding with our friends to the south in the Empire of Poland and the claims that have been made over certain lands on the edge of the Hungarian plain.

While my grand and enlightened King Gustav Vasa recognizes how you might be anxious as we all are at the avoidable prospect of war in central Europe, we had hoped that might be circumvented.

Our armed forces must stand by with our friends and allies against any that might be an outside threat for without our full support, the delicate balance of power might be upset. We have no wish to trade bloodshed with any under God’s watchful gaze, especially those such as yourself and peace loving ally. There are those that might act foolishly attempting to cause war and turmoil, but those of our great Eastern Alliance stand together and hope to open all eyes to the unpleasantness that you have seen on that path.

We look forward to a long standing peace in this land where all peoples can prosper and come together.

 

[el freako]

The scene:

The hall of an old Kremlin (castle) in Novgorod, a father and son are talking late into the night:

Father: So it's war then?

Son: Yes Father, if the Habsburgs attack we will back Zigmunt to the hilt - his offer of Welikia was just too good to pass up.

Father: I was greatly surprised that Zigmunt offered land as an inducement he does not seem the type to give land away, indeed his primary aim seems to be to aquire more of it.

Son: Well, Father I have to admit that the idea was orignally mine.

Father: Yours? You were brave indeed to suggest that to Zigmunt himself! I hear is is a most intemperate fellow.

Son: Actually I suggested it to his advisors after mentioning just how upset Vasily was by Zigmunt's lack of consultation. Then they suggested it to Zigmunt.

Father: How dulplicitous! Son I am proud of you! So the next move is in the hands of Charles V?

Son: Yes, if he goes to war then we will help Poland defend the Hungarian lands that are rightfully theirs. The heretic Spainish might have more gold than us but we have just as many people and it will be amusing to see how those soft iberians deal with our winters.

Father: <laughs> Indeed, I assume our army is ready?

Son: Yes, should war be delcared then thirty thousand troops will move into Poland to help with their defence, with another sixty thousand being recruited.

Father: Well, enough of this. How is the Tsar himself

Son: Becoming increasingly frail I fear - his son, Ivan, seems to be a capable administrator but he has strange 'habits'. I do not think it would be wise for anyone to cross him, even in a minor matter. He will be a difficult Tsar to advise.

 

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His majesty, the King of Spain, Carlos I, is being fed ripe grapes by several lovely ladies when a messenger, Gomez, arrives, escorted by Cartez, the guard captain.

Gomez: You majesty! I bring news from the East!

Carlos: From the East? Very well, go ahead.

Gomez: The leaders of Russia and Sweden have decided to honour their alliance and fully support Poland in the upcoming war.

Carlos: They have done WHAT?!

Gomez: The leaders of Russia and Swe-

Carlos: Shut up you fool! I heard you the first time. This is bad news indeed. I did not wish for this to escalate into such a large conflict. I even gave those horrible French one of our territories to prevent such a thing. And now these Swedish and Russian snowmen think they can stand up to the mighty nations of Spain and Austria?

Gomez: I understand my liege, you would never-

Carlos: Shut up you babbling idiot! No one interrupts the King of Spain while he is engaged in speaking. Guards! Take this man to be executed.

Cartez: Yes sir!

Gomez: But sir! I'm just a messenger! No! No! *muffled sounds as he is dragged away by the guards*

Carlos: Oh, and Cartez, be sure to tell the firing squad to clean their rifles. I want them to be in perfect condition when Swedish prisoners of war arrive.

Cartez: Yes your majesty.

Carlos: And one more thing, Cartez. On your way, tell Admiral Ramirez I wish to meet with him. An attack on Sweden will require every ship we can spare from the New World fleet.

Cartez: Yes your majesty. Those rotten Swedes will not stand a chance against your mighty navy. *Cartez exits*

*Carlos takes a seat in his throne, and the female servants continue to feed him grapes.*

 

[el freako]

Excerpt from British library documents relating to Russia (librarians note: these seem to have been aquired from Russia by Nazi troops in WW2 and we got them after Germany's defeat)

Procalimation from his Imperial Majesty Vasily III, by the grace of God Tsar of Russia.

It is with great pleasure that I inform my subjects that the Poles have agreed to transfer the province of Welikia, the last remaining area of Russian people under the control of Poland, to the Tsar for the sum of 50 ducats.
This is in exchange for our full support in the coming war with the Hapsburg heretics.
We realize that the loyal boyars of the Tsar will have to make sacrifices in the coming war but take heart! we shall be united as a people again!
Only the Mongol scum still hold our people in bondage and they will be no match for us once God has granted us victory over the western heretics.

 

[Jove]

War Plans Document

Subpart of Operation Blue Chill

To: “Albatross”

You are to continue on the course of action that you previously sought permission to do so. Anything that you wish to do to disrupt the realm of Spain for the benefit of your nation is acceptable.

This includes but is not limited to creating unrest and revolts in any province, attempts to undermine the stability of the Kingdom of Spain.

You are also instructed have your forces bring hardship to Spanish troops and vessels that will result in the loss thereof. Anything that will help bring about the attrition of the forces of Spain be it destruction of foodstuff, winter clothing or drilling holes in her ships so that they might sink off our coast.

Your ducats to help instigate unrest have been sent along with this instruction. If you or any of your men are caught, we will be forced to deny knowing you or your men.

This letter will self destruct.


End communication

 

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Please, everyone, post diplomacy/treaties/etc HERE, not on the other thread!

Let me answer to what the Venice's player wrote on the other thread...

I, the venetian doge, see the sultan proposal of peace void and nonsense, the venetian people don´t forget decades of ottoman expansion against venice and other balkans nations.

How Sultan knows, the provinces of Morea and Ionia are rigthfully claims of the republic, and if the Sultan wishes a true peace, this conflict must be resolved. If not, I must assume it´s only a truce for rearmy and return to hostilities.

I can convince my people for peace if the Sultan shows a proof of goodwill.
If the Ottoman Empire return us Ionia, a little island in the Egean Sea, vital for our commerce with the black sea, we´ll cease any demands of Morea in the future. And a durable peace will be possible.

Personally, I expect the Sultan consider properly this proposal, unfriendly between our nation are bad for business, and we both have great interest in the region.

Cordially, the venetian doge, Gil Amarth.

The Otoman Sultan (praised be his name) proposes to sell Ionia for 2000 ducats to the venetian dodge. The lands of the Sultan are holy and, being granted to him by God, are not to be given away.

 

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A memo from His Majesty, the King of Spain, to the governor of the Spanish held lands of Southern Italy:

Dear sirs,

Consider yourselves blessed to receive a letter personally written by your mighty king. I shall get straight to the point. As both of you know, there has been a major development in your region. A new ruler, much more competent than the King AI that ruled before him, has risen to power in Venice. This leaves me in an awkward position. The Venetian ruler will undoubtedly wish to expand and unite all of Italy under one crown.

The problem is, of course, that France also has interest in southen Italy. This leaves me in a dilemma: support the mighty France, or support the tiny Venice? Please, write me back as soon as possible with your recommendations. If I do not receive a letter within two months, you will be executed.

With regards,
King Carlos of Spain

One month later:

To our most mighty King Carlos,

Your majesty, I am honoured that you reqest my advice. You ask me to recommend giving up these lands to either the French or Venetians? I would recommend dealing with Venice. The people here are Italian cultured. They would relate more to a ruler who is also of Italian heritage, and less to some crazy French-speaking ruler.

My family and friends have lived here for years, and I would dread to see them come under French rule. I am sure, in your infinite wisdom, you have heard rumblings of how the French have treated their colonies in Newfoundland. I would not wish to be treated the same way here. Please, your majesty, DO NOT cede these provinces to the French.

With regards,
Lono Sanchez, Governor of Southern Italy

 

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Letter to the King of Venezia

Dear Doge,

I was overjoyed ot leanr of your rise to the throne of Venice. Good leadership in the Balkans and Mediterranean will help counter Ottoman and Habsburg expansionism.

However I have heard rumors that you covet Italy. I must inform you taht France claims the Italian peninsula and we shall not be denied our rightful claims that have been recognized by the Pope himself (Napoli and Apulia are French cores). I give you warning, do not attempt to expand into Italy or I will crush your puny nation like the bug it is.

Most Humbly

On behalf of King Francois I,

Madam Rebecca La Truer (Chief Advisor to the King)

 

[Jove]

Diplomatic Attaché’ Message No. 2

To the King of Sweden and his Supreme War Council


It is with utmost necessity that we report on another development. South in the Italian peninsular, we have intercepted through friends of ours in placement in the court of Venice, notice that the King of France claims all of Italy.

As you well know, Venice is known by all to be part of the geographical area of Italy and we have full reason to believe that this means that the King of France will either claim the crown of the Venetian Republic, or attempt to take this outright with force.


More intelligence will be sent to you forthwith when it becomes available.

 

[Casluerj]

The king of Poland shall speak:

To the Leader of Venice:
I, king of Poland, salute you Great One. That Venice under your rules may prosper and live in peace like Christ teach to US, his only sons of this world covered with infidels. I, King of The Great Polish Empire, send to you cordial words. Your Empire is the first one who can stop the infidel's invasion in the holy land and europe. Do that, do not let the Chistian world be destroied. I offered to you now, by this letter, an eternal peace and friendship so our Two nations may prosper. I, King of Poland, think that you already know about the uneasiness that central europe is suffering, I ask you to be AT LEAST neutral in this future war if the warlike and unholy Austria want to declare war against the Great Eastern Alliance. Farewell My Friend
Signed By The King of Poland
Zigmunt

 

[Sable_Rose]

To the Doge of Veince


I, Karl V, give my full support in a united Italy.. one that is united under your rule. We hope you succed in this great quest. And bring peace and prosparaty to Italy.

However.. there are ones who would try to stop you. These are troubled times, as you well know. This is why I invite the great Doge, in all his wisdom, to join Austria and Spain in our humble allaince. We shall support and defend Vience in her god given quest of uniting Italy.

I hope to hear from you soon great sire. In the mean while, may you live long and prosper.


Signed,

Karl V
Archduke of Austria
King of Bohemia
Protector of the Hungarians

 

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The Lady raises an eyebrow.

Really? Honest now Charles have you gone mad?

Very well I shall crush you as well as Venice

ITALY IS MINE, ANYONE WHO OPPOSES FRANCE SHALL BE DESTROYED

P.S :rofl:

 

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Marco Ligre, ambassador of the Venetian Republic in Paris, won´t send any reply.

The unpolitely and mad communicate of the french king are absurd, and this isn´t a correct form to conduct diplomacy between sovereign nations.

I suggest don´t use any threat to the republic in the future. Venezia don´t fear France, and don´t hear this proposals.

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To the Ottoman Sultan. From the venetian doge.

As I feared, the ottomans peace proposals are only a fake. We don´t pay so large sum, for a province who is venetian soil.

However my people are patient and a long negotiation will begin.

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To the Polish King. Zigmunt.

I have read carefully your letter, and we both share a great concern about ottoman expansion. However your recent actions in central europe could easily precipitate a great war between christian nations.

So huge conquest in hungary are beyond of what is reasonable, I suggest you to moderate your ambitions, and try to reach an agreement with Austria.

If any foreign nation, like Rusia or Sweden, participate in the conflict, Venice will join to war in the Habsburg side.

Cordially, the Venetian Doge.

 

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Marco Ligre, ambassador of the Venetian Republic in Paris, won´t send any reply.

The unpolitely and mad communicate of the french king are absurd, and this isn´t a correct form to conduct diplomacy between sovereign nations.

I suggest don´t use any threat to the republic in the future. Venezia don´t fear France, and don´t hear this proposals.

Mr Ligre is promptly executed for disrespecting the King of France and his head is mailed to Venice. :rofl:

P.S Just kidding! :rofl:

 

[el freako]

If any foreign nation, like Russia or Sweden, participate in the conflict, Venice will join to war in the Habsburg side.

So the Venetians say we should dishonor our alliance?
Well the Tsar could expect no more from a city ruled not by nobility but by mere merchants and peasants, who consider honour a commodity to be bought and sold.

Venice's days of glory are over - they have to accept scraps from the Hapsburg table.
The Doge thinks he is reaching for past glories but in reality he is accepting Habsburg overlordship.

 

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To the Ottoman Sultan. From the venetian doge.

As I feared, the ottomans peace proposals are only a fake. We don´t pay so large sum, for a province who is venetian soil.

However my people are patient and a long negotiation will begin.

The True, One and Only Otoman Sultan (hallowed and praised be his name) is very outraged by the venetian words. He reminds the fact that orthodox greeks asked help to the Sultan to escape from the catholic venetian onslaught. The Sultan has the greeks as very good friends, allies and vassals, and his many greek high advisors oppose any venetian demand to the greek lands.

The Otoman Sultan (praised be his name), from this day on, is forbiding venetian merchants to trade in Alexandria or Istambul until words of apologies are sent from the venetian dodge. You are no longer welcome.

 

[Casluerj]

The King of Poland shall speak:
With great rage we received the last comunications by the venetian diplomat. But I, King of Poland, did not kill him. I, King of Poland, let him go back home hoping that the Leader of Venice shows more wisdom. You are not in Power when Hungary insults the Great Polish Empire. I could not admit that. Besides that I only took 3 provinces form them while Austria will soon take more than 6. I will say to you the same thing that I said to the King of Spain, but show more wisdom that him: Do not be a pet of the Habsburg Empire!!!! But if you choose the wrong way and enter in a war that you even know the reasons, I, King of Poland, will not tolerate that and, of course, will suport EVERY action that France will soon do in Italy. I ask you to think well before you take a decision...
Signed by the King of Poland,
Zigmunt