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Discussion/AAR/ or any comments about our weekly game go here! Link to administration thread for anyone who wants to join:here
Sorry for putting my name in the title, but I couldn't think of anything better. :rolleyes:

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Happened before the session... (copying from the old thread)


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The Ottoman Sultan (praised be his name) is ready to make a public speech regarding his foreign policies for the next thirty years, from 1st January 1520 to 31st December 1549. I, being his spokesman, am ready to talk for him.

*the ottoman anthem starts to play*

The Ottoman Sultan (praised be his name) wants to ensure that he has no territorial claims in Europe - or any island in the Mediterranean - other than any of his vassals. Thus, he gives guarantees that he will not claim any further territory in Europe, be it by war, be it by diplomacy. In his words, Europe includes everything west of the Black Sea.

The Sultan states that anything in Africa west - but not including - of Tunis is not of his sphere of interest either.

The Sultan has no interest in lands north of the Azov and the Caspian.

The Sultan opens Istambul and Alexandria for trade with catholics, orthodoxes or any other christians, but takes the liberty to prohibit shi'ite merchants to enter the cities. However, trade is limited by no more than two merchant companies comming from christian nations. He allows, however, any number of sunni muslims to trade with the Ottomans.

The Sultan takes the right to formally refuse trade against any nation that disobeys his trading terms.

The Sultan states that - if allowed - he won't mantain more than two merchants in christian centres of trade. But he will be very angry if anyone refuses trade with him, because he is opening his cities for trade with christians.

The Sultan has no interest in America.

Finally, the Sultan wants to ensure that he wants to start an era of friendship with the other european nations, as long as they don't put claims on Otoman territory. Anything not covered in this speech must be resolved directly with the Sultan.

Allah al-Akbar. God is Great.



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Great session! :) I'll comment it more in depth later... I'm asleep.

But, just to remind, a small editing must be done...


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The Ottoman Sultan (praised be his name) has signed an agreement with the king of Poland. Its items are:

- The Ottoman Sultan shall publically recognise the polish sovereignty over Moldova and drops the claims he had before on that province;

- The Polish King, in exchange, shall pay 250 ducats to the Ottoman Sultan (praised be his name) for the recognisement of the sovereignty.

Signed by their hands,

The King of Poland: _________________
The Sultan of the Ottoman Empire: _________________

Allah Al-Akbar!



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Clarifying: 250 ducats shall be subtracted from the polish treasury then be added to the ottoman one, even if it might mean to have Poland with negative treasury (it will only result in automatic loans next month).
 
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His most Royal Majesty, The Archduke of Austria and King of Bohemia, Karl V....

To the most vile Polish King,


Your actions in Hungary shall not go unpunished. I was patient with you. And let you continue your war. I also was generious enough to allow you to take Ruthenia. But instead, you take Carpathia and Trans from Hungary. This is unaccptable.


By the Archduke's Decre:


Either Poland ceades Carpathia and Trans to Austria, or face War.



I do hope you make the sane choice. It would be such a pity if I would have to slaughter your people to make you see the light.



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The king of Poland shall speak:

I, king of poland, confirm that the two great Ottomans and Polish empires Have made an agreement to better the relationship between our great peoples. It is true that The Great Poland will give precious 250 ducats in exchange for Moldavia, a very important province for Poland's estrategy.
I, King of Poland, confirm, once more, that The Great Kingdom of Poland does not have any other demand on Europe after Their fair war against the foolish Hungary. The Kingdom will only defend themselves with bravery and courage if any other great power inherits on Poland influence sphere.
 

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Naturally, I have no other benchmarks, but it seemed like a good game, even with the technical difficulties. I know I had fun. Now I'm going to bed.

EDIT: The next session is next Fri, correct?
 

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The following is a message from the mighty King Couche of Spain:

As I write this, my hands tremble with rage. This rogue nation, this wild animal, this beast, this country called Poland, has had the audacity to annex Carpathia and Transylvania! Even the poorest, ugliest, most mentally backward peasant knows that these provinces are rightful property of Hungary! Hungary is close to the Austrian empire, and will most likely soon become a part of it. Thus, a war with Hungary is a war with Austria, and a war with Austria is a war with Spain. Can Poland wish to finance a war against an Austria funded by Spanish gold? It cannot, and for this reason, it must back down.

Long live the Spanish Empire.
 

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The Ottoman Sultan (praised be his name) states his complete neutrality in any upcomming wars in the Balkans, unless it envolves the duchy of Wallachia. However, his claims over Wallachia - an ottoman vassal and ally, just like Moldova once was - can be negotiated! :D

Any negotiations must be taken directly and privately with the Sultan. The Sultan shall announce his final decision over Wallachia, taking into consideration any negotiations, until Wednesday.
 

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Acesand8s1003 said:
Naturally, I have no other benchmarks, but it seemed like a good game, even with the technical difficulties. I know I had fun. Now I'm going to bed.
EDIT: The next session is next Fri, correct?
Maybe, maybe not. If everyone can agree on a different night (say, wednesday or saturday or others), then I'd like to try it then. But if not, then Friday it is. Let's post in the other thread about this, so we don't clutter up the discussion here too much.
 

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Russia, the first 10 years:

October 1st 1530,

My dearest father, I have been serving as advisor to the court of our Tsar Vasily III since 1520 and, as you have requested in your previous letter, have written to you detailing a historical account of what has transpired for you to include in our family archives.

In domestic politics little happened during the 1520's, there were the occaisonal crisis of confidence in the Tsar's government - probably caused by the increasing centralization of policymaking in Moscow, but nothing drastic.
The real action came abroad: early in 1530 Zigmunt of Poland, much to the surpise of the Tsar, offered an alliance.
With some vague promises of religous tolerance by both countries this was agreed as it secured much of Russia's western border and allows us to turn our attention to the hated mongols.
Shortly afterwards, at the Tsar's suggestion, our cousins in Sweden joined the 'Eastern Alliance' - with our western borders now considered friendly we can concentrate on the infidels to our east.
However, I pursuaded Vasily to wait until the rest of the world recognized our claim to free the Russian people from the corrupt and brutal mongol barbarians.

With the Eastern Alliance signed (we were later joined by Prussia when they offered Poland overlordship) it came as no surprise to us when our Swedish cousins decided to throw off their Danish yoke.
The war went well on land for our Swedish allies but they found themselves unable to break Danish seapower.
The Poles were less successful, although their armies triumphed they kept being outranked on the ground by Casimir, duke of Brandenburg (which was also in a war with the danes) and even their own Prussian vassal. Poland was also unable to make headway against Denmarks impressive fleet and so, despite occupying the Jutland peninsular they finally accepted peace for a reasonable amount of Danish gold.
Zigmunt was obviously disappointed, even plucky little Prussia was able to gain Pommerania in the war.
Russia, despite being willing and able to support our allies in this war was seldom requested to intervene - only putting down a revolt in Polish borderlands. This, however, played badly to the Boyars at home as the russian army was sent to put down a rebellion of the only Russian people still in Poland. The Tsar successfully argued that even though they were our fellow Russians that, by taking up arms against their rightful sovereign, they were not noblemen - just peasants, serfs and rabble.

After the war an intriguing deal was signed by Zigmunt of Poland and the Ottoman Sultan Suliman, in which the Ottomans cowardly abandoned their vassal Moldova in exchange for most of the gold that Poland had taken from Denmark. This craven action convinced the Tsar, yet again, that there is no honour in the black hearts of muslim rulers.
The Moldovans put up a surprisingly strong fight against the Poles, but the outcome was never really in doubt and soon Moldova was united with the Polish crown.

Shortly afterwards astounding news reached Moscow - Poland and Hungary were at war!
Whilst the Tsar cared little for Hungary (who regularly oppressed those of the true faith within their borders) this will surely invoke the wrath of the house of Hapsburg - the most powerful dynasty the world has seen since the time of Charlemange or Barbarossa!
Vasily was apoplectic that Zigmunt would embark on such an action without so much as consulting him or (as he later learned) Gustav Vasa in Sweden.

Obviously seeking to take advantage of the situation the Order of the Teutonic Knights declared war on Poland seeking to gain territory whilst Poland was busy in the south.
They obviously reckoned that we in Russia would remain neutral and they were sorely disappointed - we have suffered many insults from the Tutons and now, with them surrounded by our allies, was the time to pay them back.
The hapless knights soon found all of their cities under siege from Russian armys, it is only a matter of time before they fall - we shall then reduce them so much that germans will never again threaten Russia.

News filtered back to Moscow of furious diplomatic exchanges between Karl V of Austria and Zigmunt - for a while it seemed that the Hapsburgs would be willing to accept some of Polands claims on Hungary as long as they were limited to small border areas.
Tsar Vasily, nervous about confronting the powerful Hapsburg alliance, seemed to relax, but all was in vain when news reached the Kremlin that Zipolya of Hungary (evidently sensing that he was being sold down the river by the heretic Hapsburgs) had ceded Carpathia, Ruthenia and Transylvania to Poland!
I can still remember the scene: Vasily nearly choked on his wine when he heard the news! He questioned Zigmunt's sanity and wondered if such a fool deserved a crown, even if it was only the crown of Poland (I later heard that Karl V of Austria was even more outraged - banishing the noble who delivered this report from his court in Vienna).
Vasily even summoned the patriarch to ask him if Zigmunt had been possesed by evil spirits to so provoke the most powerful men on earth.

Father, I fear there are difficult times for us ahead, Russia is a power in the east and far from Seville or Vienna but the Hapsburgs are feared thoughout all of christendom and even beyond - even making the mighty Suliman pause!
Vasily is livid with Zigmunt for acting so recklesly without even consulting him - so what if Poland asked for no aid against Hungary? it surely will do so if the Hapsburgs get involved for it cannot possibly survive them on it's own.

I tell you now father that in his rage the Tsar was ready to abandon Zigmunt to his fate should Karl march upon him - it took many of my best soothing words to calm him and make him see the bigger picture, yes Poland has acted recklessly but if it were to be reduced now that would only make the Hapsburgs stronger - and whilst we have no conflict of interest with them now if their power grows even more then we must either fight or submit to their dominance.
Finally Vasily agreed that we should not have thrown of the yoke of the infidel Mongols only to replace it with one of the heretic pope and his Habsburg masters.

It seems that our fates will now be decided either by the reactions of the Hapsburgs to Zigmunts opportunism or that Zigmunt can be persuaded to peaceably give up some of his gains (although how that would play with the Polish nobles who hold so much power there is anyone's guess).

Despite these trying times I am well and looking forward to visiting you back in Novgorod, Katerina and the children are well and send their fondest regards.

Your loving son El Freako.
 
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Europe in 1530.

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I have considered the situation of Poland and have come to the following resolutions.

1# That Poland was acting in a reckless manner and failed to heed warnings from several other nations. We condem Polands seizure of Carpathia, Ruthenia and Transylvania.

2# Any war waged by the Habsburgs against Poland must be limited in scope and be focused solely on the recovery of Carpathia alone.

3# And attmept by the Habsburgs to seize any other Polish territories including Ruthenia and Transylvania will be condemed by Farnce.

4# If the Habsburgs are too agressive France along with England shall enter the war to protect Poland and curtail Habsbur agression.

5# However if Spain would be willing to cede Artois to France we would not consider any action against the habsburgs in any circumstances concering Poland for a period of 50years.
 
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His most Royal Majesty, The Archduke of Austria, King of Bohemia, Protector of the Hungarians, Karl V....


To Francois I of France,

If you will not reconize our sovrenty over Transylvania, and Carpathia.. How do you expect myself, or Carlos, to reconize yours. Think before you issue demands.

I, Karl V, will regain the lands stated. Not anyone, but god himself will stop me from this quest. I have sworn to protect Hungary for any enemy she might face. Poland is that enemy and shall be delt with in one feel swoop.


I do promise, how ever, not to take any land that isn't rightfully mine.
And the Capitol shall be spared, unless I feel it is nessary to pay Zigmunt a visit.


Signed,
Karl V

Archduke of Austria
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Protector of the Hungarains
 

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Lady Europa said:
Europe in 1530.
I have considered the situation of Poland and have come to the following resolutions.

1# That Poland was acting in a reckless manner and failed to heed warnings from several other nations. We condem Polands seizure of Carpathia, Ruthenia and Transylvania.

2# Any war waged by the Habsburgs against Poland must be limited in scope and be focused solely on the recovery of Carpathia alone.
Upon review of the above two points, the King of Spain is somewhat confused. The illustrious leader of France, in all her wisdom, has condemned the Polish seizure of Carpathia, Ruthenia, and Transylvania. But, she will only support the recovery of Carpathia alone?! This is a complete contradiction. I hope that whatever brain-illness that seems to have infected the French monarch does not cross the Spanish border. Hungary has full rights to all three territories.

It also saddens His Majesty to learn that the King of England has been pulled into France's dangerous maneuvers. His Majesty believes that the English nation would be wise to remain friends of the Habsburgs. As a gesture of good faith, English explorers will find several rich islands overflowing with sugar waiting for them in the Caribbean, untouched by Spain's own. However, cross the Habsburgs, and these islands will be overflowing with Spanish troops instead.

His Majesty is pleased to hear about the success of Russia and Sweden, but hopes their alliance with Poland will not distort their common sense. His Majesty has also heard rumors about a tribe to the south gaining territory in Africa. While His Majesty cares little about natives (he has obliterated 5 such tribes from the New World already), this development is interesting.

Long live the Spanish Empire!
 

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ENGLAND: 1520-1530

London, England, In the Year of Our Lord 1520:

Thomas Wolsey sat unmoving in the elegant, black carriage conveying him to the royal residence. To sit still in the carriage as it passed over the uneven cobblestone street was quite a feat, but Wolsey's mind was too concerned with more important matters to notice. Officially, he was the archbishop of York. Unofficially, he was much more, the closest advisor to Henry VIII Tudor, by the Grace of God King of England, Ireland, and France. Today, he had to convince the king to reverse two hundred years of English policy, one which the king was determined to uphold.

The carriage came to a stop outside the massive palace. Archbishop Wolsey descended to the ground and marched towards the equally massive doors. The two guards saluted the well-known visitor. They were armed with the king's latest aquisition, a new-model matchlock musket with a octagonal barrel. Only 200 of the weapons had been produced, solely for the king's personal guard.

The archbishop was quickly admitted into the Henry's private chambers. A small group of noble courtiers exited the room as Wolsey entered. Henry VIII was a very different king than his father. Whereas Henry VII had distanced himself from the nobility and done much of the administrative work of the kingdom, his son was constantly surrounded by his peers, leaving capable advisors like Wolsey to handle the work of governing. It had done much to relieve the unrest among the nobles and cement the fragile position of the Tudor dynasty.

"Sire," Wolsey said as he completed a formal bow, "I bring an important message from Francois I of France."

"Another request for us to vacate Calais?" replied the king.

"No my liege, he offers an alliance, presumably against the Hapsburgs."

"An alliance?"

"Yes milord. I would advise you to accept Francois' proposal; we cannot defeat France if they choose to take Calais by force."

"You know what that would mean Archbishop." Wolsey nodded. "If we ally ourselves with France the Crown would have to rescind its claims on France." The claims were mere fantasy now, and had been that way for over 70 years, but to formally acknowledge that fact would cause significant unrest among the younger nobility. "Very well," the king stated after considering the issue for a few minutes, "inform Francois, king of France, that we accept his offer."

Off the Coast of Holstein, In the Year of Our Lord 1523:

The initial alliance with France grew to include Scotland and Savoy. King Henry VIII of England renounced his claims on France and looked hungarily at the weak nation to the north. Scotland, however, shattered the peace of the Anglo-French alliance with a declaration of war on the small Protestant duchy of Holstein

Admiral Howard, commander of the English Home Fleet, stared at the outline of the enemy fleet rapidly approaching his force. The two squadrons were closing rapidly and soon the Holstein vessels would realize the magnitude of the trap. They had sailed expecting to encounter the 3 warships and two transports of the Scottish fleet; instead, they would meet the 30 warships of the English Home Fleet as well as the small Scottish force. The admiral smiled, any minute now.

Manhatten, In the Year of Our Lord 1525:

England, however, generally distanced itself from European affairs during the period. Brave explorers ventured forth from the comfort of the Channel to the uncharted waterways of the New World. Equally brave colonists established new lives for themselves in the virgin soil.

John Craddock walked onto dry land for the first time in 3 months. He simpy stood there for a minute, enjoying the feel. The other new settlers around him experienced similar reactions. The older colonists working at the docks couldn't help laughing, remembering their own arrival in the New World. John surveyed his new home. Anchored off shore were the three vessels of Bernarnd T'Anti-Cheese's exploration group. The explorer himself had been killed in a storm off Bermuda a few months earlier. He had done exceptionally well over the last few years, however, giving England a glimpse of more land to colonize than it could afford. Now, his fleet would serve as part of the garrison of the rapidly growing colonies in the Americas.

London, England, In the Year of Our Lord 1530:

Thomas Wolsey relaxed in the comfortable chair of his office. He was much fatigued as of late. The last ten years had been stressful: the colonization of the Americas, building a strong alliance with Scotland and its subsiquent vassalization to the English crown, and plague in Ireland. There had also been boundary disputes with several German duchies, Cologne and Mainz in particular. Settling those problems had drained the treasury and given the Exchequer numerous problems. The king was convinced that it was part of a plot by the Archduke of Austria against England, France's strongest ally. After all, how else could England have a boundary dispute with Mainz? The king's was also becoming quite insistent for a male heir. Henry practically ignored Catherine and young Mary these days. The talk of divorce particularly concerned Wolsey and he feared what the next few years would bring. Relations with Spain and Austria had been friendly as of late and the Archbishop didn't want that to change. Especially as Spain was beginning to encroach upon English colonies in the New World.

Wolsey's private secretary knocked at the door. "Your Holiness, Lord Percy is here."

"Send him in please."

The door opened and a tall man in an elegant red-colored uniform entered. Lord Percy, one of the numerous members of that important noble family, was the commander of the Anglia garrison, the largest army in England. He was not an exceptional general, but he was competant.

"Lord Percy, may I offer you some refreshment?"

"No thank you, Your Holiness. I am quite refreshed and interested in hearing the latest reports of Hungary."

Getting right to the point, excellent. "Poland has thus far refused to shift on its control of Carpathia, Ruthenia, and Transylvania. The king was furious at Poland's territorial acquisitions, after negociations between the Hapsburgs and the Polish crown had agreed on just Ruthenia."

Lord Percy nodded. "The king is an honorable man."

"Indeed. Fortunately, Francois is equally furious. Neither will support Poland...as long as the Hapsburgs do not become too vindictive in a war."

"And if the Hapsburg demands are too great?" Percy inquired, though he already knew the answer.

"War." Wolsey replied.

"We aren't ready yet, Your Holiness." Percy stated. His voice was calm, but he was quite serious.

"No Lord Percy, but we are far more ready than we were ten years ago. Wealth is beginning to come in from the New World and trade in London is booming. The king still desires peace, however, and will work hard to achieve it. In case he fails though, I am immediately increasing the military budget. Bring your men up to the highest standards Lord Percy. If there is war, we'll need it."
 

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Letter to the persian government

The Ottoman Sultan (praised be his name) is very pleased to sign the treaty with the persian mullah, Thamâsp I, in which he recognises the ottoman rights over Armenia, Kurdistan and Kirkuk in exchange for peace. It is a most fair agreement, since Persia dared to misrespect the ottoman territorial integrity and, worse yet, dared to follow the shi'ite heresy, which is unforgiven.

The Sultan, named Sulêyman I Kanuni (praised be his name), expects that the mullah, from now on, starts to respect the ottoman territorial integrity and starts to follow the one and true sunni faith, the true faith of Mohammed, the prophet. If so, a new era of friendship may start as soon as possible!

Signed,

Anibal, Grand-Vizier of the Ottoman Empire.
 

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His Majesty Henry VIII Tudor, by the Grace of God King of England and Ireland and Defender of British Islands:

To Archduke Karl of Austria, King of Bohemia, Protector of Hungary

To King Zigmut of Poland

Greetings in Catholic brotherhood. We are most concerned by the effrontery to the honor of Archduke Karl of Austria by King Zigmut of Poland. Furthermore, we recognize that Archduke Karl, unlike Zigmut of Poland, is an honorable man and must demand satisfaction. We hereby renounce support for the Kingdom of Poland unless it immediately returns the regions of Carpathia and Transylvania to the Kingdom of Hungary. We also announce that any further demands by Austria in the event of victory in combat, or an Austrian declaration of war despite Polish cession of the disputed regions, will be met by the utmost displeasure. May God defend the Right.
 

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His Majesty Henry VIII Tudor, by the Grace of God King of England and Ireland and Defender of the British Isles:

To King Carlos of Spain

Greeting in Catholic brotherhood. We are most displeased by your attempted bribery of us. Despite this, we recognize that Iberian standards of honor may not be equal to our own and, as such, are willing to forgive you.

We are eager, however, to come to some sort of agreement on the partition of the lands in the New World. We commend you on your victories over the heathen natives of the Americas, though we are concerned by your encroachment upon our own colonies. If both our expansions are not checked or controlled we may come to war. An agreement can forstall any bloodshed and allow both of us to profit from the vast riches of that land.
 

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The King of Poland shall speak:

I, king of the Great Polish Empire, am extremely upset with austrian demands. The foolish Hungary, which will soon become part of The Great Austrian Empire, has a bit more than 8 provinces, and I, King of Poland, just take 3 ones, which rightfully belong to The Great Poland Empire. I would not like any other nations in Polish cores. This is an outrage that I, King of Poland, have to give up on polish rightfully territory.
I, King of Poland, apologyze, by means of this letter, to the Great Russian Empire and his Tzar and to the Great Kingdom of Sweden and his Great King, of not comunicating my plans on that moment. That was just because my causus belli against the foolish Hungary would soon over. So I, King of Poland, had to take a rapid decision. I shall not do this again, as a respect for my great friends and allies.
So I, King of Poland, am certain that the other great european powers shall be reasonable and accept Polish rightfully claims in just 3 Hungary's provinces, considering that The Great Austria Empire will soon take more provinces than The Great Poland Empire did.
I, King of Poland, reafirm that I do not have any other dedmands in Europe, just with any other nation declare war on The Great Polish Empire. If this happen The Great Polish Empire hopes that the Stong Eastern Alliance, which is formed by the Great Polish Empire, the Great Russian Empire, The Swedish Kingdom and the Kingdom of Prussia, will fight back with such bravery that any other west nation can imagine.

Signed by
The Great King of the Polish Empire
 

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His most Cathoilic Majesty Francois I of France to Archduke Karl V of Austria.

Dear Brother,

Upon further advice I have somehwat recosnidered our position regarding Poland.

I have chosen to fully recognise the Polish conquests in Hungary. I will not tolerate any moves by you and either of your Kingdoms to recover the lands taken.

I will infiorm you that 120,000 of the finest soldiers in Europe marching under my banner await the order to attack. Can you repel such an attack?

If you in your wisdom decide that no you can't repel such a force I would be willing to stand aside as you deal with Poland and in return you will cede to us the Province of Artois which if recognised by all as French. Also you shall grant colonial rights to England in the carribean of a nature to be negotiated between Spain and England.

I await your reply.
 

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His Majesty Henry VIII Tudor, by the Grace of God King of England and Ireland and Defender of the British Isles:

To King Carlos of Spain

Greeting in Catholic brotherhood. We are most displeased by your attempted bribery of us. Despite this, we recognize that Iberian standards of honor may not be equal to our own and, as such, are willing to forgive you.

We are eager, however, to come to some sort of agreement on the partition of the lands in the New World. We commend you on your victories over the heathen natives of the Americas, though we are concerned by your encroachment upon our own colonies. If both our expansions are not checked or controlled we may come to war. An agreement can forstall any bloodshed and allow both of us to profit from the vast riches of that land.
To the King of England:
I understand your anxiety, Henry VIII Tudor. I, myself, would be weary if such a mighty empire as Spain was approaching my own borders. Your anxiety is unwarranted, however, because His Majesty has no desire to expand any further north than he already has.

To the King(queen) of France:
Upon further consideration of your demands, His Majesty has decided to offer a compromise. Spain is willing to offer ownership of Franche Comte in return for no involvement of France, or France's allies in the Habsburg's dealings with the scourge of Poland.