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Helmeri321X

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I was thinking to buy some dlc from sale, ive heard that cossack aint that good because diplomatic feed back system ruins the game. Is this True? I remember that darkfireslide (youtuber) said one of hes videos that he own cossack dlc but doesnt play with it because diplomatic feedback system. Is it true that cossacks dlc some what ruins the diplomatic game?
 

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Take this with a grain of salt because it may be bias: I don’t agree with Darkfireslide on a lot of things, including his opinion on the diplomatic feedback system. I unsubscribed from him once the majority of his EU4 videos devolved to nothing but criticism for the developers. I can understand criticism, and I myself do it too, but it felt that he was way too eager to point out the bad without also bringing up the good.
But I digress

In regards to your actual question:
I think in many ways it’s an improvement. You just need to change your playstyle to adapt to it. A lot of people got upset about it because it made smaller starts more difficult, but they were in no way impossible. You need to think through your decisions more, and the feedback system means that you cannot rely on big nations to do everything for you, and you can also no longer ignore your allies. If you want help faster, you need to help them too. I think it makes for a much better system.

The DLC is worth grabbing for the estates alone. The horde stuff is cool too, but honestly you are buying it for the estates.
 

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Cossacks DLC is actually one of the better.
-It introduces estates that (even though they could be improved) are nice,
-Gives mechanics to Tengrism and hordes (gotta try that)
-Actions like choosing your attitude to other countries and setting provinces to be of interest (some people don't use it at all, but it is useful sometimes)
-And obviously Trust and Favors. Makes EU4 less Vic2-ish. You can't just use your allies anytime you want just after taking them. In my opinion it works well and game without it is rather easy and cheesy.
 

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I was sceptical about favors at first but it does prevent you from just straight abusing your allies and you need to think twice when you promise them land and don't give them anything at the peace table and thus lose trust. It definitely doesn't feel like it breaks the game IMO.
 

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People only complained because they can't abuse larger nations and drag them into war for them, like BYZ. Anything that makes it harder to win the game is apparently a bad thing. People who hated the Diplomatic System added are a bunch of crybabies if I'm being honest.