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Puny Austria :rofl:
That's what I call funny pic comments!
Hmm... How is your BB going? I belive it's pretty low that you DoW'd some more European countries?
For the most part, my BadBoy rating is hovering just under the cut-off. I'm trying to keep it below 27 (which is as low as it'll get with Diplomacy Candidates), but it isn't easy when you're trying to conquer as much heathen lands as possible before 1650. :)

I should clarify: are you imposing any penalty on yourself for breaking your arbitrary self-imposed rule?
I was afraid that's what you meant... :)

I've no immediate plans for such a thing, no. It was a mistake on my part, and it got rectified soon enough. That said, I see you people have more than enough ideas for such... ;)

How about declining half a dozen boundary issues?:cool:
Egads - are you trying to kill me? That's six badboy points worth, at least! :eek:



At any rate - I've played up until 1650, so any penalty would have to start then. I hope to resume play tomorrow evening (timestamp of this post +17 hours). If I'm to have a penalty, it'll have to be determined by then. How about no starting wars or issuing further guarantees for the next twenty years, while the BadBoy level drops to nothing? [size=-2]...and then I'll just pretend that isn't the gameplan already...[/size]



[size=-3]Note to self; next time you screw up, don't tell them about-[/size] err, was that out loud? :p
 

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Part 57 - Stadtholder de Rieu's Achievements

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Austrians push for Lombardia. The local garrison, twenty regiments strong and led by our Stadtholder, attempts to survive long enough for reinforcements to arrive. They do, and a total of sixty depleted regiments lays in a pursuit of the retreating Austrians.


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As thousands perish in the harsh fighting in Mantua, Austria attempts to settle the matter amicably. We absolutely refuse.


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Astoundingly, our supreme Stadtholder survives until his second re-election.


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French forces from Northern Europe flock into old Bavarian lands. Most Austrian forces in this half of their empire are only a few regiments strong, and French twenty regiment cavalry stacks ride in to trample them, even with considerable attrition.


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The Ottomans are making some headway, but not enough.


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Almost a distraction, French forces in Iberia report victory. We claim our core province of Madrid.


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The Turk settles for little, but at least they've regained their land connection to Greece.


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With the conquest of Gorz, the Austrian navy is forced to sea, where heavily armed Galleons await them.


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The French version of 'we claim your throne' is 'we claim your throne room and all lands for miles around'.


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Austria begins to feel the pressure. Their exhausted armies returning from the Eastern Balkans can't put up much of a fight... except against our forward force in the area, ten regiments that are continuously mauled and forced to retreat ever westward.


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Eager for more souls to convert, our missionaries arranges another claim on the Zapotec.


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As our western force of ten regiments faces certain annihilation, we succeed in assaulting our way to 90% warscore. This suffices for our ambitions. We claim our two core provinces, the Center of Trade in Gorz, and Friuli to limit any future Austrian navy to next to nothing..


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They accept, and the Adriatic takes one step closer to being French.


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Our superb ruler, working in tandem with his Cabinet, ensures that even after this, our BadBoy score remains manageable.
 

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Part 58 - Bavarian influences

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Mecklenburg signs up for another war. It seems unlikely that they'll start a war somewhere, so we might have to spend a point declaring a war. We'll see how their alliances work out when the time comes.


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We attack and secure the Zapotec lands.


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Maharasthra shows guts, attacking Khandesh.


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France accepts the challenge.


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Clearly, Maharasthra has secured advisors previously employed by Bavaria.


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Though it seems at least one of the Bavarian strategists found his way to Gondwana.


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They even do it without allies. Ah, well... Rajputana should find this defector nation an interesting meal. :)


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We have no major qualm with Bihar, and after mapping their lands, we accept a quick settlement.


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In North America, our garrison forces overrun the Huron braves, incorporating them into France.


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The time has come to clean up in Africa. Unlike the natives of the Americas, here, those warnings we got earlier might actually trigger something.


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...and so they do.


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Holland would be the toughest target among these, with level 3 forts, a small, but modern army and a small, but efficient fleet. Even so...


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Swahili is removed from the map. Now only Persia remains in Eastern Africa.


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Even as French expeditionary forces attempt to liberate them, Khandesh surrenders unconditionally. The fools.


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Switzerland is made a vassal, providing France with all the cuckoo clocks we'll ever need.


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Mysore, having sieged one of Maharasthra's southern provinces, puts Khandesh back on the map.


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To balance this, France removes Syria.


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...and then, out of nowhere, Thuringia attacks Meissen. Heavily guaranteed Meissen. None of their allies come to help, either. This must be where the last of those Bavarian advisors went.

Who things Thuringia will triumph in this war? :)
 

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It's clear that Thuringia strives for WC
They must have Chuck Norris in their army (666 shock) so be careful!! :eek:
Oh, as long as there is only one of him, I'll handle it like the French player does 'dodge king Henry' in EU2. :)

Essentially... don't fight him. Let Chuck come to assault French forts, while we sneak around and take all of Thuringia. 99% warscore is good enough for peace. ;)

Here we have the first of your punishments for breaking the limit! Don't touch Thuringia. :p
Keep in mind that I'm playing far ahead of the publishing of these AARs. This conflict has long since concluded... :)

I'm currently at 1650 in the game, but the Thuringia conflict is from 1641... So I'm afraid I didn't leave them alone. They had a core of mine! :)

Always be prepared for the unexpected. :p
Pfft. Boy scout. ;)

I'm not good at preparations. I prefer mad adaptions, which usually works - just not so well early on. :)
 

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Part 59 - The Last Tale of the Pagans


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Gondwana surrenders one province to Rajputana, and another two to France.


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Thuringia parts with Thuringen, returning the core to France.


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Maharasthra is carved down to size.


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Tragedy strikes. Just days before his third re-election, Stadtholder de Rieu is found dead in his bed. We mourn his passing. His efforts will be remembered.

His replacement isn't exactly a slouch, but more of an administrator than a diplomat. One term in office is all he shall have.


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As soon as the BadBoy limit allows, the Mamelukes are removed from the map.


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Holland is reduced to a One Province Minor. Too prideful to become vassals, they instead bribe their way out of the war.


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In Africa, nomads seek to embrace Cosmopolitaine values. This is highly appreciated.


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EUREKA! A random check of advisors for hire turns out to be ridiculously fortuitous. This advisor, fresh out of the Indian tech group, is immediately recruited for the French court and given a dozen regiments to serve as bodyguards and food testers. With his help, France now sheds more than two badboy points a year.


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So, annexing the Jalayirids won't result in more than a year's worth of diplomatic effort to obscure from the minds of all.


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Six months of living dangerously. That ruler had better not die and leave the office in favor of an incompetent diplomat.


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...especially as the conquest continues, once the BadBoy score is somewhat down. This war might seem fast, but it's conducted over several years between annexations, to allow some distance to the cut-off.


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With Mali, that war ends.


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In the meantime, we've attacked the Inca empire, mapped their lands, and now stand ready to annex them.


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Songhai, the last of the BadBoy-free Pagans, is next.


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Ming diplomatic efforts gives France a new, potentially powerful neighbor. However, Ming has seriously fumbled the ball in this game. It seems that some hundred years into the game, their absolute dominance over South East Asia was broken by rebels. Their efforts to retain their former glory is now hampered by a lack of income, a lack of stability and a lack of technology.

Them being Buddhist with almost no Buddhist provinces might have something to do with that. :)


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Our vassal, Baden, should certainly be considered French territory.


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One Stadtholder passes away. Curiously enough, we're not distressed to see him go. Stadtholder de la Porte is given the best possible security detail and physicians.


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After some time, our BadBoy level drops enough to permit another four points of conquest - just enough for the last two nations of West Africa.


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Mali goes first.


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Then, Segu.

Persia has a strong grip on Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa, but we hope to evict them eventually, giving us complete domination on this continent also.


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Gambling at the limit again. Dumb luck is a wonderful thing. :)


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A few religious oddities - Orthodox Arabs. Wonder how that came about.


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The Catholics in formerly Pagan Songhai, however, we know where came from. They were French exports from a neighboring province a century previous. The Pagans tolerated them. France cannot. Good thing they're out of places to run now.


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The French fire-and-forget tactic about guarantees has been abandoned for several years, but one of them was apparently still in effect... and with 1650 approaching fast, this opportunity seems too good to miss.
 

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ming now ? they are far and huge, a good planning is required :)
maybe not , they should also be far behind in land and naval tech ^^
 

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ming now ? they are far and huge, a good planning is required :)
maybe not , they should also be far behind in land and naval tech ^^

With his monster navy, he just have to allocate 100 ships to the front and watch them collapse thanks to a massive blockade and the attrition generated from naval battles...
 

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ming now ? they are far and huge, a good planning is required :)
maybe not , they should also be far behind in land and naval tech ^^
If it had been the 'usual' Ming, I'd agree. However, this Ming has somehow ended up Buddhist, and has been so for more than a century, at least. Their income has taken a nosedive, their revolt risk is way up, and their army is smaller than usual. Sure, they still have way more forces than I in that specific theatre, but some will be shipped in from India, and perhaps used in coastal raids while the Ming armies fight their own rioting peasants. :)

With his monster navy, he just have to allocate 100 ships to the front and watch them collapse thanks to a massive blockade and the attrition generated from naval battles...
My monster navy is very preoccupied with anti-pirate patrols... All but thirty of those warships are used for that. :)
 

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Part 60 - Always fight a land war in Asia

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Ming are not in good shape, but French forces in the region are few in numbers.


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The Horde is on the move, seeking to expand the Khan's demesne.


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Stadtholder de la Porte dies prematurely, but his replacement is even better, shifting the Military statistics to Administrative. We wish him a ridiculously long life. :)


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Now, this is a surprise - there are still Pagans surviving in East Asia. This must be exploited to the fullest! Securing these provinces now has top priority.


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A core on Anhalt seems a very good deal; it could easily be sheared off of Poland...


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...but no sooner have we formed the thought, does the Horde mess things up for us. Anhalt returns as an independent nation. :(


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We think the Polish rulers must have gotten a major bonk on the head by the Horde. No sooner have they attained peace, do they jump a country they no longer border. It is a shame the AI seems unable to take Guarantees into account when assessing 'enemy strength'.


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The best thing about this whole conflict is that we refresh our core claim on Hinterpommern.


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This shouldn't take too long. :)


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Japan, after settling things with Ming, eats the last bit of Korea.


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A sure sign of how badly Lithuania is faring.


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As our rapidly depleting cavalry forces play around with a large Chinese army in Assam, we at last conclude the siege of Naga, the second Pagan province in East Asia. Infantry forces elsewhere are charged with assaulting in the hopes of increasing our warscore just a little more. Time is fast running out, and peace must be achieved.


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Thankfully, our attack on the Chinese capital meets with success, considerably raising our warscore. The two Pagan provinces, land bridges to them, and several 'tendrils' from which to get Boundary Disputes is requested from Ming China - and they accept.


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Despite it all, our reputation is not very high - but this is the last war against heathens before 1650. Now, we enter the slow, slow expansion at higher BadBoy costs.


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In order to completely break Ming, we open a new Center of Trade in newly conquered Macau.


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From Poland, we stand to gain nothing. In order to prevent Austria from growing, we accept their offer of a white peace.


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In the far northeast, Japan increases their foothold on the mainland.

Soon after, we cross into 1650. Time for another status update.
 

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Part 61 - 250 years of play - Overview Jan 1st, 1650

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France is doing very well. Our BadBoy score just above 26 points is currently reduced by a whopping 2.35 points every year, thanks to our stellar Stadtholder and diplomats.


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The state is not as stable as we'd like, but we can't have everything. We're attempting to fix the problem, but the cost of a single stability point is now quite prohibitive.

We're also still far above the naval forcelimit.


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We feel confident Foix will protect our Protestant nation.

As for the sliders, we are likely to use all remaining slider moves to bump Centralization, as we attept to diploannex our vassals.


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Thanks to exploration of the oceans, naval tradition is fair. We have the same mission as we had fifty years ago... :)


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We remain the richest nation, but Persia is steadily growing stronger.


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Since we all know Castille still is the top inflation country, we offer the nations list sorted by negative prestige instead. It is tough being the Holy Roman Emperor when France has some provinces abandon it every so often. :)


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Tech levels, sorted by Government. France is behind in all other disciplines, but we've caught up in Land tech.


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Despite having lost two Centers of Trade, Austria remains rich enough to field the world's second largest army.


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Japan has a large, but technologically backwards fleet.


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All in all, France remains fairly unified, despite the many wars and conquests these last five decades. French missionaries are to be honored for this achievement.


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An overview of the world map...


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...and the French slice of it.


Things are looking far better now than they did five decades ago. France has grown from about 300 to about 600 provinces, in large part from colonizing and absorbing all Pagan nations. We're still only about halfway to the goal of complete World Conquest, though.

With 170 years of gameplay left, here's the situation. In that time, we're guaranteed to shed 170 points from Cabinet, and 85 points from rulers. However, heathen province cost should now have normalized, meaning any non-core province will cost at least one BadBoy point, and annexing One Province Minors will be very expensive. Same-religion OPMs will be vassalized and attempted diploannexed.

There is a slim chance we might achieve the WC goal - but it is highly dependent on level 9 Diplomacy rulers, a ton of Boundary Disputes, and a constant flow of Diplomat advisors. My many mistakes in the early game are coming back to haunt me now. Six points from taking Orleanais by force? A fatal mistake. Pushing towards Narrowminded and back again just for a few extra missionaries? A poor move.

I'm now more certain than ever that a complete World Conquest without BadBoy accumulation is possible, even without BadBoy-reducing missions (Castille, Ming) or remaining a Catholic Curia controller throughout the game, but it requires incredible attention to detail, a very early swap to Republic and an insane portion of good luck. I doubt I can achieve this in my game, but I think I'll manage to grab a fair bit of the world before 1820. :)

The plan now? Reduce our BadBoy score. We have no need to conduct any wars until about 1670, when our core on Hinterpommern expires (as the first of the unclaimed cores in non-vassal states). We should be able to reach close to 0 BadBoy by then, unless one of the remaining Guarantees we've offered out in the past are triggered. As our reputation improves, we will attempt mass-diploannexations of vassals.

Beyond that, our future actions will depend greatly on what Boundary Disputes we get. :)



As a 'penance' for inadvertently crossing the threshold for six months earlier, France shall not be entangled in any war whatsoever until we reach 0 BadBoy again. This includes declining any Guarantee wars we might end up in. Spotless reputation, but no prestige? We'll have to manage.

[size=-2]Note, I played beyond 1650 yesterday... Anyone want to take a guess at how long it took for France to reach 0 BadBoy? ;)[/size]
 

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Playing as Novogrod, having 150 income I can only fund 60k army, while Austria with 90 can 156k? :wacko: Does the cost of regiments decrease over game time?
 

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Playing as Novogrod, having 150 income I can only fund 60k army, while Austria with 90 can 156k? :wacko: Does the cost of regiments decrease over game time?

Austria is Holy Roman Emperor, so they have a higher forcelimit.



About the badboy question, I'd say 12 years and four months.

Great AAR, keep it up!
 

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Playing as Novogrod, having 150 income I can only fund 60k army, while Austria with 90 can 156k? :wacko: Does the cost of regiments decrease over game time?
The AI knows all the tricks of maintaining a large army, methinks - such as reducing maintenance cost to very low levels during peacetime. :)

Austria has some rich lands still, and being the Holy Roman Emperor enables them to build a ridiculously large army.

Austria is Holy Roman Emperor, so they have a higher forcelimit.



About the badboy question, I'd say 12 years and four months.

Great AAR, keep it up!
Being the only guess so far, it is certainly the closest. ;)

That's startling progress - France is master of three continents, four if you count Europe, five if you count the subcontinent.

Good penance choice. It may not hold you back much, although the prestige loss will start to suck.
Removing the natives, going Republic and preying on heathens does have the effect of enlarging the nation much faster than nibbling at Europeans, all BadBoy being unequal. :)

I think this would be better in WWM. Sure you have more provinces to conquer but there's about 100 bonus years for you to play so... MOAR!
For EU3, I'm not fond of mods. I like the 'easy' way EU3:IN is, without resorting to mods that turns the game much harder - and perhaps less accessible to the average reader. :)
 

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Part 62 - A Matter of Prestige

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Stockholm becomes a French core for the second time, now through a regular boundary dispute, and not a religious dispute.


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This certainly comes in handy, in our efforts to climb to +3 stability.


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Lithuania sheds a few provinces for five years of peace.


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Patron of the Arts pays off! Two free slider moves. :)


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We're reducing Castille, one core at a time.


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Our dear master Diplomat, called WyHat among friends, comes through for us. Not only are we back at +3 stability in a heartbeat, we also lose six points off our reputation! :)


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With a score this low, we get some flexibility in our diplomatic endeavors.


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At 'maybe' chances, five offers of annexation are sent out. Two of five vassals accept, not bad - especially since we have cores on both those vassals. :)


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The coast of Africa embraces wine, women and song - and really strong cheese.


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Our Stadtholder is guaranteed a re-election, with those stats.


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A good couple of years ahead of time, we push for Govt tech 31, and start mass construction of tax assessors. Inflation shall soon never bother us again!


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As a result of becoming Innovative, people are growing restless. Rather than take a stability hit, much better to let the people do as they please. I found it amusing the first of these events hit Rome. :)


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We've no need for him in Paris, but Estonia might soon border the Horde, at this rate.


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Our good relations with Lancaster comes to a close with this boundary dispute.


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A succssion war breaks out in Asia, but it is our loss. As per the 'penalty' mentioned earlier, we decline intervention - and lose a good chunk of our prestige in the process. With our numerous foreign core claims, regaining prestige is very difficult before warfare is permitted again.


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And just to really tank French prestige, another succession war breaks out.