Corps / Army counter symbols - Suggestion

[Battlecry]

I would rather prefer better distinction of the levels of HQs in the hierarchy. I mean that each level of HQ should get its own symbol, not as all of them has just that common "HQ". So, something like this:

Now that I agree with. While I don't have major issues differentiating HQs, replacing the "HQ" symbol with something more apparent would be nice.

Let's remember that the ingame counters are approximations, not NATO-standard. They are based, if I remember King correctly, on board games they played in the past. I think you'll be rather surprised at the differences if you examine an actual NATO symbol sheet.

I also disagree with the OP - generally my corps are mixed-arms units (as they virtually always were IRL [a Soviet Tank Corps was really a division, composed of brigades]) so differentiating corps by unit type would be useless. What symbol would you like to have for a Corps of 2 armoured, 1 mechanized and 2 motorized divisions?

 

[madprofmike]

would something like this help



its from a mini mod i made because i have such a hard time telling the HQs apart.

hres a link to the page for download
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?530189-HQs-MINI-MOD-from-WIP-(Widescreen-Interface-Project)-aka-Chocolate-MOD

 

[Battlecry]

Looks great Mike, though the red makes them stand out a bit too much for me.

 

[unmerged(139259)]

would something like this help

That's what I meant.

only problem with this mod is to make it work I had to use blank images for the HQs so in tool tips HQs don't show up

It's a workaround but it works. At least most of the time. Still, I would like to have a proper feature included from devs that would allow different HQ counters for different levels of HQs...

 

[Pro_Consul]

Still, I would like to have a proper feature included from devs that would allow different HQ counters for different levels of HQs...

I like this idea. Personally I probably wouldn't use it unless the new symbols blended well with the existing unit counters; I'm funny that way. But I still think it would be nice to have the option. Just like I never use sprites, but I like that they added better sprite packs.

 

[Acesandeights]

I've actually switched from counters to sprites...

 

[podcat]

What the OP asks for would definitely be quite handy, but I think it would also have several problems tied to it.

First of all, you then would be able to recognize HQs only by the number of "X" symbols above the counters, which might be very confusing in many times? Ah, there is my saviour, a tank division! Oh, no, that's just their HQ...

if I were to do it I would make a different HQ picture instead of reusing any other unit. so say an armor symbol with HQ written in the middle. should be pretty clear what it means then. This would break from NATO standard though. (not adding this in FTM, just making an observation )

 

[apocriphaA]

awesomeface.jpg

 

[madprofmike]

the colours are based off the real ones, plus in my game i play with coloured counters so they don't stand out to badly and second i wanted them easily spotted and identified, but everyone has there preferences. just load them in to paint.net and gray scale them if you like.

 

[madprofmike]

I second that, each level of HQ should be a different unit with its own counter and size and etc...

 

[Danmark Rising]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Military_Symbols_for_Land_Based_Systems

 

[Praetori]

I would love to see more detailed counters on the closer zoom levels.
I mean the NATO system is meant for simple and quick presentations (and to be manageable from the backseat of a moving vehicle) and does have a few nice features.

Being able to see what unit belongs where, it's designation and type at-a-glance would be awesome. The strength numbers they have right now are just outright pointless. The ORG and STR values would have been way better.

 

[Pro_Consul]

The strength numbers they have right now are just outright pointless. The ORG and STR values would have been way better.

Man is that true. I have no idea why they put those strength numbers on the counters when they have no relation to anything meaningful or useful.

 

[von Murrin]

I'd prefer movement speed and some little brigade symobols, or just the division name.

I had actually forgotten all about the counter numbers.

 

[unmerged(54975)]

you could mod that easily.

How would I go about modding it? I tried opening the motorized_brigade file in gfx\mapitems\mapcounters but they are DDS files and neither paint or photoshop can open them.

 

[comsubpac]

How would I go about modding it? I tried opening the motorized_brigade file in gfx\mapitems\mapcounters but they are DDS files and neither paint or photoshop can open them.

i don't know but i am sure google does.

 

[Sutekh]

Well, I use paint.NET to modify counter symbols. It's easy to use freeware. http://www.getpaint.net/

 

[podcat]

there is also a DDS plugin you can get for photoshop here: http://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-texture-tools-adobe-photoshop

 

[Danmark Rising]

there is also a DDS plugin you can get for photoshop here: http://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-texture-tools-adobe-photoshop

Awesome... thanks.

 

[unmerged(139259)]

Being able to see what unit belongs where, it's designation and type at-a-glance would be awesome. The strength numbers they have right now are just outright pointless. The ORG and STR values would have been way better.

I would also like to have the "quick-unit-stats-info" back. Remember those good old times where you could see some critical values of each unit already in their list (not only after clicking on its details)? I mean soft attack, hard attack, ground defence etc. Would be really marvellous to have them back again...

(Look to the left side of this screenshot)