Corporative embassy is too powerful?

[Tamwin5]

I don't have a problem with the concept, but the scaling. If a Megacorp becomes twice as big, with twice as many branch offices, that means their *base* diplo power will be about twice as much (ignoring power from tech for the moment, which is a complicated issue). But then they're also getting twice the *multiplier* from corporate embassies, so you end up with quadratic power growth. In practice, this isn't a problem on small galaxies but gets a bit crazy on bigger galaxies, as in the OP screenshot.

Instead, I would suggest that the corporate embassy should grant a chunk of base diplo power from economy based on the trade value of the planet. That way you can still get some extra diplomatic heft as a Megacorp, but you're not also getting a huge multiplier on every pop/ship you own and every resource you make inside your sovereign territory.

Becoming twice as big generally means conquering. Establishing branch offices means you aren't conquering those planets. It doesn't scale as quadratically as you'd think.

The idea of diplo power based on the trade value of the planet is interesting though. I strongly suspect that if it was a "flat" value, it would have to be quite significant to be worth building.

 

[zZander56]

I think it's about as powerful as it should be. 800 minerals + (I believe) 3 energy upkeep for 5% extra diplo weight from specifically economy. Not the most powerful return for the investment, but still worth it if repeated massively. You also have to think about the opportunity cost of not constructing a more productive building like the Private Research Enterprises or Virtual Entertainment Centers.

 

[Ffc]

It's strong, surely, but I don't think it should be nerfed

Overall it costs influence and you need to find planets with 50+ pops, which is not that common during the early/mid games with AI, it's mostly their capital and guaranteed planets; and you've to be friendly with them to have a commercial pact

It's not sure it's better than building habitats with this influence or conquering said Empire instead of being friendly

But it's probably easier for the AI

 

[Aepdneds]

Another really close to imba branch office is the executive retreat, basically removing all amenity problems on all your planets as soon as you have around ten of them.

 

[andriy.gerasika]

this counters the effect clerk jobs are under-performing, isn't it?

 

[Aepdneds]

It does mean that if you have ten of them your system capital complex including the four administrator jobs is already giving 88 amenities, so the amenities from the clerks are close to irrelevant if you just build another simulation site since the reduced pop growth on planets.

 

[J. A. Keller]

I honestly agree. I dont know how to balance it, but it was a struggle to become galactic emperor on grand admiral with a megacorp existing.

One way to balance it would be to say that a Megacorp can only establish corporate embassies on planets that have a system capital built and are set up as provincial capitals. There would be realistically little reason for one to have corporate embassies on planets that aren't centers of power.

 

[TrotBot]

what i want when the politics DLC comes out:

+5% diplomatic weight for every faction I sponsor across the galaxy. we are the homeland of the Intergalactic Utopian Revolution, and all the fanatic egalitarian factions we are sponsoring we hope to help rise to power. but until then, the Intergalactic that unites all these factions makes us strong!

 

[Cry_Havok]

A starting point of balance would be to only allow the Corporate Embassy to be built on a capital. While that could in theory still be cheesed, with releasing infinite vassals eventually you are just crippling yourself.

 

[Ashantai]

Please do not necro threads, start a new one instead.