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Stratagyfan101

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Why can I not core Dagestan but I can core all of the other surrounding provinces?

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So we can see here the game is telling me that the province is not next to an adjacent core which is required for coring. It is correct that the province is not next to an adjacent core. However, this doesn't seem to be a requirement.

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Here we can see my diplomatic mapmode where Majr, Kuma and Astrkhan are cores. Terek is the only province bordering a core but I'm still able to core those threee provinces between Dagestan and Terek. So maybe Dagestan is outside my coring range from Kuban.

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According to the Colonial mapmode Dagestan is well within my colonial range and thus should be coreable.

The wiki claims that all I need is a land bridge to the province (not even owner just controlled). I do recall this being true in older versions, possibly even at launch (damn it has been a long time), but this has not been true in my experience for some time. According to the this post, not since at least 1.14. This is the only post on the rules I can find through simple search terms.

It claims that there are six rules. The first is if the province is adjacent to a core. Only Terek satisfies this condition. The next is a coastal province within coring range, which is irrelevant to the current situation. Third is the province is adjacent to a vassal's core. None of these provinces satisfy this condition as Gerogia is my only vassal, and none of the provinces border Georgia. Fourth is the land bridge of owned provinces but it must connect to the capital. My capital is Paris so none of the provinces satisfy this condition. Fifth is the old land bridge to the capital but it must be within the colonial range. As with the last condition, none of the provinces satisfy this condition. Sixth is that the province must connect to a coastal core through owned provinces and be within colonial range. All of my provinces, including Dagestan satisfy this condition.

So where is my error, and what exactly is the rule on coring provinces?
 

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I learned about inland coring range recently.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/why-can-i-not-core-these-provinces.1060999/

In your particular case I believe it may be due to the Caspian Sea. It is treated as a water tile for claims, but not for cores. I.e. you are able to make claims across the water tile (from Astrakhan) but you cannot make cores across it. Presumably the colonization map mode treats it as a water tile as well, giving you the coring range from Astrakhan while not actually allowing you to core from there.
 

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Ok, I don't know why your game is saying 74.7 to the closest port, but in my quick test game it says 175.1 so outside the coring range. And that is calculated from Kuban
 

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Ok, I don't know why your game is saying 74.7 to the closest port, but in my quick test game it says 175.1 so outside the coring range. And that is calculated from Kuban

Interesting. After you posted this I decided to Close the application. Opened the application again, loaded my game and it still shows it as 74.7. What I also noticed is every province after Majar is also 74.4. the entirety of Lithuania is 24.6. I'm going to assume the mapmode is bugged unless someody else comes up with a better explanation before morning.
 

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Maybe Georgia still counts as bordering through the wasteland mountain range? Failing to update the province adjacencies when they changed the map is a plausible source of the observed behaviour (and would make it a bug)
 

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Maybe Georgia still counts as bordering through the wasteland mountain range? Failing to update the province adjacencies when they changed the map is a plausible source of the observed behaviour (and would make it a bug)
That is what I thought too and tried that out, but no. It has nothing to do with Georgia. Besides when I was messing around in the debug mode the range distance changed in real time.