Cores? and Scandinavia

[unmerged(98135)]

How can You see which countries have which territories as cores?..... Is Denmark a core for Germany?....


Is it feasible to invade Denmark, Norway, Sweden and then release it as scandinavia. And more accurately is it smart?. Can Finland be included as well? In short how many territories are Scandinavian if You make them as a puppet?

Which States are good as released states for Germany? I have previously released Scotland and Ukraine because they are Ok in research... but is it cost benefit wise smart?

Any help will be appreciated!

 

[Pal]

How can You see which countries have which territories as cores?

Diplomatic Mapmode, then click any country. The dark green dots are core markers.

..... Is Denmark a core for Germany?....

Depends on scenario. Only Kolding is German core, in some scenarios not even that.

Is it feasible to invade Denmark, Norway, Sweden and the release it as scandinavia. And more accurately is it smart?. Can Finland be included as well? In short how many territories are Scandinavian if You make them as a puppet?

Yes, that´s a good idea if you can spare the units (~12 inf/mtn). All of Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland are Scandinavian cores. You don´t need to attack Finland though to release Scandinavia.

Which States are good as released states for Germany? I have previously released Scotland and Ukraine because they are Ok in research... but is it cost benefit wise smart?

Azerbaijan for its oil, maybe Romania and Spain. Usually you´re better off annexing the high-IC-few-provinces-countries (Switzerland, Netherlands, Belgium) while the large useless-province-countries are better released to free up TC. Only exception to that is for high-resource-provinces, which should be released also.

EDIT: Never release anything in Russia, except for when you don´t plan to defeat the Soviets.

 

[unmerged(98135)]

But will Finland be included in Scandinavia?

 

[unmerged(77438)]

Finland may or may not be included in Scandinavia, its simply up to you if you choose to invade them aswell. Scandinavia is ofcourse stronger if you include Finland in Scandinavia but it is not necessary to include them.

 

[unmerged(54975)]

if u have annexed them as well as the others then yes

 

[unmerged(98135)]

Hmmmmm..... I see a new ally to Germany appear

 

[De_Genius]

A 60 base IC Scandinavia is powerful indeed. Their 4 tech teams are equivalent to 2 extra for you because of the blueprints. If you direct their research and production a little ( makes small changes in the AI file ) they will turn out a nice amount of units.
My ally SCA turns out MOT, MEC and ARM like there is no tomorrow, and takes care of all inf and land doctrine techs before I even have a chance to start them And the steel from the Swedish countryside is an extra perk.

 

[unmerged(101416)]

Hi, I know this isn't technically on the same topic, but it is related...

Is it possible to create an event that will allow you to play as Scandanavia from 1936? If so, how? I have no knowledge of how to mod these things, but I feel that Scandanavia's position offers some interesting options.

I know I could load up as Germany and rampage through Denmark/Sweden/Norway/Finland, but is there any way to play Scandanavia at the start of the game?

 

[unmerged(98135)]

I know there is an AAR that plays with scandinavia..... looki look
Scandinavia
Though it is played from the 1914 scenario. Any of You guys out there that can explain how to do these conversions?

 

[Filou]

Just a warning tjuset, as Germany you will get an event that will give you 15% dissent after you release Scandinavia. Plus the regular 5% for releasing puppets as a full autocratic regime, that's 20% dissent to kill off.

(and your Scandinavia link is broken)


My guess to release Scandinavia from the start, create events where a country inherits all 3 (or 4) countries, then release Scandinavia, save, load.
The choice of the country will impact on the starting sliders of Scandinavia, but it's nothing a little 'freedom' cheat can't solve.

 

[unmerged(98135)]

Just a warning tjuset, as Germany you will get an event that will give you 15% dissent after you release Scandinavia. Plus the regular 5% for releasing puppets as a full autocratic regime, that's 20% dissent to kill off.

Yes was aware of that but... still it seems to be an ok tradeoff. And for a month or two my Germans can feel the joy Adolf has to share with the release of scandinavia!.... max in the top bar!

 

[unmerged(101416)]

OK, so I copied the "Anschluss of Austria" events, but replaced "AUS" with "DEN" "FIN" "SWE" "NOR".

However, when I try and load up as Albania to annex these countries, the game will not load, and I get a CTD before I've even started playing. I also get some error message with regard to the events.

Is there something wrong with this event...

#########################################################################
# Anschluss of Sweden - Annexation
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 98065
random = no
country = ALB
name = "EVT_2001_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2001_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "anchsluss"

action_a = {
name = "OK"
command = { type = inherit which = SWE }
command = { type = inherit which = FIN }
command = { type = inherit which = NOR }
command = { type = inherit which = DEN }


Is there something wrong with this event?

 

[Starfury]

Hi, I know this isn't technically on the same topic, but it is related...

Is it possible to create an event that will allow you to play as Scandanavia from 1936? If so, how? I have no knowledge of how to mod these things, but I feel that Scandanavia's position offers some interesting options.

I know I could load up as Germany and rampage through Denmark/Sweden/Norway/Finland, but is there any way to play Scandanavia at the start of the game?

I would suggest creating a new Scenario. That would mean making a copy of the 1936.eug file and the 1936 folder in scenarios, renaming it to something like 1936_sca and then editing the files.

On the top of my head some of what you'd have to do is:
-update all references to the 1936 folder to your new folder.
-in 1936 look for any occurrence of DEN, SWE, NOR, FIN in the treaties and remove those treaties
-remove the includes for the Scandinavian countries from the .eug file, and replace them with the one for Scandinavia
-create that sca.inc file in the 1936_sca folder (easiest done by editing one of the existing Scandinavian countries)

 

[blue emu]

Is there something wrong with this event...

#########################################################################
# Anschluss of Sweden - Annexation
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 98065
random = no
country = ALB
name = "EVT_2001_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2001_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "anchsluss"

action_a = {
name = "OK"
command = { type = inherit which = SWE }
command = { type = inherit which = FIN }
command = { type = inherit which = NOR }
command = { type = inherit which = DEN }


Is there something wrong with this event?

You mean... aside from the two missing } at the end? And where's the independance command to release SCA?

command = { type = independence which = SCA value = 0 }

You'll also need to change the .inc files for NOR, SWE, DEN and FIN to make them all : regular_id = whichever country is annexing them... otherwise the units will be lost.

Wouldn't it be easier to make it a Swedish event, instead of Albanian?

 

[De_Genius]

Just a warning tjuset, as Germany you will get an event that will give you 15% dissent after you release Scandinavia. Plus the regular 5% for releasing puppets as a full autocratic regime, that's 20% dissent to kill off.

(and your Scandinavia link is broken)


My guess to release Scandinavia from the start, create events where a country inherits all 3 (or 4) countries, then release Scandinavia, save, load.
The choice of the country will impact on the starting sliders of Scandinavia, but it's nothing a little 'freedom' cheat can't solve.

hm... when I released it, I dont seem to recall the dissent hit being that big. Around 3-4% at most I think, but I could be wrong.

 

[blue emu]

hm... when I released it, I dont seem to recall the dissent hit being that big. Around 3-4% at most I think, but I could be wrong.

You get 5% immediately on release (or a little less, depending on your policy sliders), then another 15% via scripted event, a few days later.

You can avoid the scripted 15% Dissent hit by releasing them from puppet-hood immediately, so that they become a full ally instead of a puppet.

 

[De_Genius]

You get 5% immediately on release (or a little less, depending on your policy sliders), then another 15% via scripted event, a few days later.

You can avoid the scripted 15% Dissent hit by releasing them from puppet-hood immediately, so that they become a full ally instead of a puppet.

hm.... I dont think I got the 15% event for some reason.

 

[blue emu]

hm.... I dont think I got the 15% event for some reason.

Was this under an old version of the game? The extra +15% Dissent event was added to a patch, after everyone started pointing out what a game-breakingly strong puppet Scandinavia was.

 

[unmerged(39035)]

If i release scandinavia in 36. Will it fuck up the Ai, like for instance the winterwar?

EDIT:
So this will work? Dont need the units. Like to start from scratch anyways.

################################################## #######################
# Anschluss of Sweden - Annexation
################################################## #######################
event =
id = 98065
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVT_2001_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2001_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "anchsluss"

action_a = {
name = "OK"
command = { type = inherit which = FIN }
command = { type = inherit which = NOR }
command = { type = inherit which = DEN }
command = { type = independence which = SCA value = 0 }
}
}

 

[GermanWehrmacht]

If i release scandinavia in 36. Will it fuck up the Ai, like for instance the winterwar?

EDIT:
So this will work? Dont need the units. Like to start from scratch anyways.

################################################## #######################
# Anschluss of Sweden - Annexation
################################################## #######################
event =
id = 98065
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVT_2001_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2001_DESC"
style = 0
picture = "anchsluss"

action_a = {
name = "OK"
command = { type = inherit which = FIN }
command = { type = inherit which = NOR }
command = { type = inherit which = DEN }
command = { type = independence which = SCA value = 0 }
}
}

it'll be just a regular AI since Scandinavia doesnt have an AI of its own.