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It's there to stay and the reason is quite simple, we want customers to be able to quickly and easily modify their cookie preferences. We have the same on paradoxplaza.com and it hasn't been an issue before ;).
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't fully think that answer through, because while true, it is an answer that ignores the different UI design of the main site and the forum. If you'd spent a thought for design, you'd realize why it IS an issue in the forum.

Paradoxplaza:
The design of the site has a nice fat grey or black border, on which the icon with white background and black cookies is shown. The user's focus is at all times on the text, games, etc that is INSIDE the black borders, so the icon doesn't distract the user. It is nicely designed - omnipresent, but unobtrusive. And, of course, sessions using Paradoxplaza are probably shorter than those using the forums in general, so small annoyances have less time to build up.


Forum:
  1. Its location means it frequently overlaps text, game-ownership icons, or avatars because the forum doesn't have a fat blank border but a very slim one, and not only that, since the gaze is frequently on the bottom of the screen while scrolling through posts reading them, it is frequently focused on involuntarily
  2. It clashes with the default blue colour scheme making it stand out
  3. It looks terrible, when you have to look at it rather than being able to mostly ignore it
The sane thing if you were willing to accept it being only nearly omni-present would to have it show up at the top of every page, vanishing when scrolling downwards, but...

If you want a permanently present cookie-clicker in the forum, FINE. But have the decency to get a designer who knows what he's doing to move it somewhere it will be less annoying, and consider changing its colour scheme.

If you don't want to expend valuable designer time,

(Jedimindtrick)
  1. Exile it to the top-right corner; in that location it is omni-present, but it is the area of the screen that the gaze focuses the least on while engaging in normal forum use; Slightly offset it so it doesn't cover the sign-out button when at the top of the page
  2. Reverse the colours; black background, white cookies. OR, just use your standard black background white Platypus instead of the stupid cookie icon
(/Jedimindtrick)
 
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I don't have that cookie thing either.
 

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It's bad. It sticks out like a sore thumb. The color scheme is completely not in line with main forum colors. It overlaps with forum text and user icons.

It's really really bad. To the point I thought it was some kind of delayed April Fool's.

I will not argue with the idea of a permanently accessible clicker for cookies. It's bizarre and weird, I have seen no other website do it like that (why not just have on the user profile page). But Ok, fine.

But at least make it reasonable (see @Peter Ebbesen last comment above)


We have the same on paradoxplaza.com and it hasn't been an issue before ;).
The way people use paradox plaza and the forum is different though.

Paradoxplaza is primarily a storefront, with large images and not much text. The little icon is small compared the large images. People are either used have some sort of ads/banners etc. there or just nuke everything with adblock. People also don't spend too much time of the storefront. You check releases/sales/buy a game. None of this takes that much time or visual focus.

On a forum, you read text, you write, you need to focus on the smaller things, and that's when the small high contrast clicker sticks out. And because of the position it overlaps with user icons and text making it worse.
 
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Who will even use it again?
Paradox, the only site on the whole internet I have ever seen, to have a constant reminder that you can change your cookie preference...:rolleyes:
By law they have to make it easy to change your cookie settings if you want to. Brussels passed that due to how American tech giants were abusing people's data. And it is a good law, albeit often poorly implemented, like in this case.
 

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On my mobile browser it doesn't even do anything.
Just sits there constantly looking ugly in the corner of my screen.
If it was part of the notification bar, or something else it would be more pleasant, but as it is it's just dissauding me from wanting to use the forums.
 

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It's there to stay and the reason is quite simple, we want customers to be able to quickly and easily modify their cookie preferences. We have the same on paradoxplaza.com and it hasn't been an issue before ;).
It looks absolutely horrible. We need an option to turn that icon OFF!
 

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I already have given *Pdox a lot business as is, and continue to do so, this is obnoxious and intrusive. Do I really have to go out of my way to disable any additional functionality of cookies beyond the basics? (Edit: I also at times browse the forums on mobile, and likewise have hardly used the mainsite at all.)
 
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As a citizen and resident of the United States of America and thus not a subject of EU law, I'd like to lodge a formal protest. Surely the fact that EU regulations compel me to look at this obnoxious thing constitutes a violation of an international treaty or something.

</half-serious sarcasm>
 

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It makes me crazy when browsing the forum on mobile. Crazy!
 

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What is that poor emoji doing to that other emoji?! He looks shocked!
 

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By law they have to make it easy to change your cookie settings if you want to. Brussels passed that due to how American tech giants were abusing people's data. And it is a good law, albeit often poorly implemented, like in this case.
By law I should have it too. So a bug is leading them to not respect this law, they will have to address the cookie issue regardless. While they fix the issue leading to many users not having the cookie, they could move it.
 

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I would personally like an option on the cookie prompt to hide, along with a message like "okay, but if you want to change your cookie settings in the future you can find it here (account settings or similar). As it stands, the cookie icon is not only a little obtrusive, but it lags when scrolling (on mobile anyhow), which causes it to draw one's attention towards it.
 

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If we're going to have an icon stuck on all our pages that allow us to modify our cookie settings, why shouldn't that icon include all other settings that are more commonly modified by users, such as ignore lists, avatars, and the like? Having a single function in-your-face mandatory style detractor on a forum board is a terrible option. I'm constantly accidentally clicking on the cookie overlay in mobile.

I mean, I get it. It's an archaic EU law that really should be changed. Risks from cookies are a 1999 threat, not a 2019 threat. Everyone knows everyone uses cookies and tracks website use now. We couldn't have Web 2.0 functionality (to use a 2005 term) without some form of site tracking.

But seriously, if we're going to be stuck with the eyesore, at least make it functional.
 

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I suspect the main problem with that approach is that the "manage cookies" function is meant to be available to all visitors to the site and forum rather than just registered members.