Content Suggestions

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CONTENT SUGGESTIONS

This is one of two threads in the forum for the discussion and consideration of new content for the game. This thread has been created to allow all players to suggest new facts, figures, and details of the island's law, history, demographics, etc. that are not contained within the existing Game History or the many existing background threads. A companion thread will be set up to review and discuss these proposals .

This purpose of this thread is to allow players to introduce and consider suggestions for introducing game content that is not addressed elsewhere. Such suggestions must be compatible with existing Eutopia game history and content This thread is not to be used for suggesting changes that would re-write existing history or to change laws without going through the legislature.

The CONTENT REVIEW thread will be where players actively discuss, debate, and ultimately help decide whether thise suggestions are adopted.

Here's How the Two Threads Will Work:

- Players submit a proposal for background content by posting in this thread, CONTENT SUGGESTIONS including "TOPIC: (insert name of topic here)" in the title.

- Players provide exactly what they are proposing and why - why they think their proposal is needed information, how they developed it, etc.

- There is public initial evaluation by the GMs, a quick check to see if what's being suggested is compatible with the game. This is not a comprehensive review. This is simply a way to screen out anything obviously inconsistent with the rules or game history. Justification for such a ruling would be provided.

- After this initial screening and GM confirmation that the topic is Open for Review, Players should submit the idea to the CONTENT REVIEW THREAD. Players get a fixed time period, say a week to two weeks to comment. They can support it, oppose it, suggest changes, etc. The player proposing it can comment as well. GMs might share their comments, too.

- At the end of the review period, the GMs will look at the discussion and, if it hasn't been amended in such a way to be incompatible with the rules or existing history, the GM Administration will post the final proposal in and call for a period of player voting on the proposal in the CONTENT REVIEW THREAD.

- Once there has been sufficient voting, if the majority of players endorse the change, it shall be recorded and added as official game content, and added to appropriate Eutopiary threads. If players vote it down, then it is rejected and can be reconsidered in a revised form at a later date, unless rejection is overwhelming.


GM Rulings on Content will continue to be Final. But that's how it's always been.

This new procedure will delegate a lot of the decision-making on content review to the players, and hopefully many interested and informed opinions will make for better content.


Questions about content review or suggestions should NOT be posted in this thread, but rather in the HELPDESK or OOC Thread. Thanks.

 

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The GMs have already received a few suggestions by PM that have been reviewed and will be posted in the CONTENT REVEW THREAD.

Please post your suggestions here, from now on, rather than sending them to us by PM.

This thread is now open for business.

- heagary
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[Voshkod]

Topic: Eutopian Criminal Code

Eutopia needs a criminal code of some sort. This was something I was planning to work on when I ran Napier as my character. Instead of creating one out of whole cloth, I suggest we adopt an existing one. My recommendation is Australia's, for a couple of reasons:

1) It's recent - updated last in 1995

2) It's from an island - like Eutopia

3) It's from a liberal democracy - like Eutopia

4) It's code, as opposed to case, based - less "legal" research required.

The 1995 Australian criminal code can be found at http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/1/686/top.htm

Some parts of it might not be relevant, or may have been superceded. For example, it has a section on espionage, which is already covered by an existing Eutopian law. The sections on things like "harming Australians" would have to be read "harming Eutopians," as well. But it would provide us with a preexisting legal framework which we could then modify in the Legislature.

 

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Eutopia needs a criminal code of some sort. This was something I was planning to work on when I ran Napier as my character. Instead of creating one out of whole cloth, I suggest we adopt an existing one. My recommendation is Australia's, for a couple of reasons:

1) It's recent - updated last in 1995

2) It's from an island - like Eutopia

3) It's from a liberal democracy - like Eutopia

4) It's code, as opposed to case, based - less "legal" research required.

The 1995 Australian criminal code can be found at http://scaleplus.law.gov.au/html/pasteact/1/686/top.htm

Some parts of it might not be relevant, or may have been superceded. For example, it has a section on espionage, which is already covered by an existing Eutopian law. The sections on things like "harming Australians" would have to be read "harming Eutopians," as well. But it would provide us with a preexisting legal framework which we could then modify in the Legislature.

The suggestion that the Australian criminal code be adopted as the model code for Eutopia seems logical and worthy of further discussion.

Please consider this GM-approved for debate and please post your proposal above in the CONTENT REVIEW thread for further discussion, along with any other thoughts you have on the subject.

- heagarty

 

[HJ Tulp]

The documents describing the Eutopian Military say the Eutopian Marines have WWII type landing craft but not which type.

I suggest the LCM http://www.ussrankin.org/id40.htm
They are made of steel, that's the main reason actually.

 

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Eutopia Airborne

This is a small piece i tried to write just for fun about the Airborne unit of Eutopia. It's based mostly on the infos on the Military reform proposed by Tilly in the past term, so it have to be heavily re-wrote. I will try to do that with the help of other players, and that's why i post the rough-cut here.

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The Light Infantry Regiment (Airmobile) (LIRA)​

*here i'll add the unit logo, probably a feather or an harp (like the Guinness' one) 'cause in Latin LIRA means harp*

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Sola virtus invicta
"Only virtue stands undefeated"​

The Light Infantry Regiment is the long arm of the Eutopian Army.

Highly trained and highly motivated soldiers, they represent a versatile and mobile force, capable of a variety of different tasks:
-air assault
-all terrain rapid re-deployment
-in depth reconnaissance
-support for peace-keeping and public order missions

The Regiment is commanded by Colonel Richard Perry and it's made of two different parts: the ground and the air.

The Light Infantry Battalion is the infantry component of the LIRA.
Commanded by Lt. Col Moore, the LIB is the backbone of the Regiment.
It's 512 troopers are divided in:
|- Alpha Company
|- Beta Company
|- Charlie Company
|- Delta Company
|- Recon Platoon
\- HQ and support Company

Attached to the LIB is a Battalion from the regular Army, on a temporary basis, giving extra-power to the LIRA and increasing the experience of the regular army units.

The Air component of the LIRA is the Flight Battalion, commanded by Lt. Col Morris, and is comprised of 3 squadrons of 12 UH-60L Blackhawk or equivalent (VALKYRIE); 1 squadron of 12 OH-6 reconnaisance helicopters or equivalent (HARPY); 24 CH-47C Chinook medium transport helicopters (to be remanufactured to CH-47D/acquired when the embargo is lifted); 12 AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters (to be remanufactured to AH-1Z when the embargo is lifted, or replaced by 12 AH-64 Apache).
The Flight Battalion gives the LIRA the chance to do its job, and also adds extra recon and devastating attack potential to the LIRA's actions.

LIRA's home is in Fairpoint, the unit is based in Fort *insert name*, a low-profile installation with annexed all the structures for the training and manteniance of both Ground and Air personnel and equipment.
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This is a small piece i tried to write just for fun about the Airborne unit of Eutopia. It's based mostly on the infos on the Military reform proposed by Tilly in the past term, so it have to be heavily re-wrote. I will try to do that with the help of other players, and that's why i post the rough-cut here.

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The Light Infantry Regiment (Airmobile) (LIRA)​

*here i'll add the unit logo, probably a feather or an harp (like the Guinness' one) 'cause in Latin LIRA means harp*

​

Sola virtus invicta
"Only virtue stands undefeated"​

The Light Infantry Regiment is the long arm of the Eutopian Army.

Highly trained and highly motivated soldiers, they represent a versatile and mobile force, capable of a variety of different tasks:
-air assault
-all terrain rapid re-deployment
-in depth reconnaissance
-support for peace-keeping and public order missions

The Regiment is commanded by Colonel Richard Perry and it's made of two different parts: the ground and the air.

The Light Infantry Battalion is the infantry component of the LIRA.
Commanded by Lt. Col Moore, the LIB is the backbone of the Regiment.
It's 512 troopers are divided in:
|- Alpha Company
|- Beta Company
|- Charlie Company
|- Delta Company
|- Recon Platoon
\- HQ and support Company

Attached to the LIB is a Battalion from the regular Army, on a temporary basis, giving extra-power to the LIRA and increasing the experience of the regular army units.

The Air component of the LIRA is the Flight Battalion, commanded by Lt. Col Morris, and is comprised of 3 squadrons of 12 UH-60L Blackhawk or equivalent (VALKYRIE); 1 squadron of 12 OH-6 reconnaisance helicopters or equivalent (HARPY); 24 CH-47C Chinook medium transport helicopters (to be remanufactured to CH-47D/acquired when the embargo is lifted); 12 AH-1W Super Cobra attack helicopters (to be remanufactured to AH-1Z when the embargo is lifted, or replaced by 12 AH-64 Apache).
The Flight Battalion gives the LIRA the chance to do its job, and also adds extra recon and devastating attack potential to the LIRA's actions.

LIRA's home is in Fairpoint, the unit is based in Fort *insert name*, a low-profile installation with annexed all the structures for the training and manteniance of both Ground and Air personnel and equipment.
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Please consider this GM-approved for debate and please post your proposal above in the CONTENT REVIEW thread for further discussion, along with any other thoughts you have on the subject.

- heagarty

(Note to Melanchthon: This was one of the three topics I had mentioned to you prior to our set up of this thread. See Mod thread. )

 

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Please note: Approval on other Topics will be delayed until we can vote on some pending Topics in the Review and Voting thread.

This will keep that thread from getting too cluttered. Votes on several issues will be called soon, then further consideration of pending questions will continue.

Note on Busco's suggestion: While it may appear that I took this one out of order, he had actually proposed it some time ago, before this thread started, and has been waiting several weeks for a reply.

-heagarty

 

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All,

before you post in this thread, keep in mind that it is intended for content *suggestions*, not for content requests or content inquiries. Posts along the lines of "we really need info on topic XYZ" are content requests, not content suggestions. A content suggestion would be "we really need info on topic XYZ, and here is what I think it could/ should look like."

Similarly, posts along the lines of "what's the current state of affairs for topic XYZ" are content inquiries, not content suggestions. If you have a content inquiry, please use the Helpdesk instead.

Recent posts that do not fall into the content suggestion category have been deleted or moved to the Helpdesk (where applicable).

 

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Federal Prison responsibility

I'm afraid at this point, since the reorganization of the government transitioning from Eutopia II to Eutopia III I really don't know, where responsibility for prisons would fall. I will review the Constitution again.

However, if you do not see it there, then perhaps this is an appropriate subject to bring up in the Content Suggestions?

Federal prison administration could be part of Federal Law Enforcement and therefore fall under MIDA. It could be part of Justice and therefore fall under the COJ. It could possibly be considered part of Welfare and fall under MESA. In the US, it falls under the Department of Justice, which is split here in Eutopia.

Since, in this thread, this needs to be made in the form of a content suggestion, I would suggest that the Federal Prison system be run by MIDA, but since the content voting is by poll, what I would like to see is all three departments be listed as choices in the poll, perhaps with a 'none of the above' choice for those who disagreee.

 

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Federal prison administration could be part of Federal Law Enforcement and therefore fall under MIDA. It could be part of Justice and therefore fall under the COJ. It could possibly be considered part of Welfare and fall under MESA. In the US, it falls under the Department of Justice, which is split here in Eutopia.

Prisons fall in the justice portfolio and thus belong to the CJ.

 

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I was asked to post here a little problem that cam to my mind.
I was in the process of writing and posting the thread on the LIRA, when i came across different versions of the Eutopian history.
Here is stated that Eutopia assumed a neutral stance in WW2:

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3296796&postcount=2

here instead is stated that Eutopia troops partecipated WW2, in the invasion of southern France:

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3296810&postcount=5

Having to write the story of the Eutopian Paras, i ask here if i can add these lines to the history of the LIRA, in wich i talk about the partecipation of the first paras in Op. Dragoon, enrolled in the British Paras:

"On May 14 1943 Eutopia declared war on the Axis. The Armed forces weren't in shape for a full fledged war. Luckily a small group of high ranked officers were ready to look outside of Eutopia for new ideas and new tactics.
The experience of land warfare in North Africa and Southern Italy were absorbed rapidly in the Eutopian forces.
The Marines were trained for amphibious landings, the Airforce worked hard studying the battle of Britain and a small group of 40 volunteers from the Army travelled to Britain to learn the basics of Parachute jumping.
The group trained at Manchester's Ringway airport with the British Paras, and after graduating they came back to Eutopia to pass what they learned to the first unit of Eutopia paras.
The volunteers applications flocked, and a Company (temporarily named Royal Eutopian Parachutists) was rapidly formed, despite the scepticism of many ambients of the Army.
This unit was attached to British 2nd Independent Parachute Brigade Group, 6th Parachute Btl just after the Brigade was retired from the first line in Italy and prepared to another front.
Eutopian Paras dropped with British, French and Americans units over Southern France, during Operation Dragoon (Eutopian Marines took part in the amphibious landing east of St. Raphael, as part of the American 36th Inf Division).
The operation was a success, the Eutopian Paras fought well and proved two things:
-Eutopia could be trusted as an Ally
-the Eutopian Paras were capable of accomplishing their goals, through hard training and dedication.
The Eutopian forces advanced with the Allies northwards, partecipating in no major combats, for being withdrawn back to Eutopia after May 1945."

After this part i go on talking about the following years of the Paras, until the LIRA name took place (very briefly).
What do you think? Does this collides with other background?

 

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UPE Currency Regime

The ducat is widely understood to be worth one US dollar. This is reasonable as the currency in Bermuda also has the same relationship with the US dollar. Apparently there are also some other references that say the Ducat is also work one Euro, which would imply some grand currency arrangement, a sort of new Bretton Woods agreement, or is a contradictory point. To resolve the problem (either there is has been a massive currency agreement that hasn't happened in the real world or the ducat has two different values), I would put forward the following content suggestion:

I am not suggestion that we follow the Bermuda model exactly, which is: "Here are the essential facts about the local-only Bermuda Dollar. It is not exportable. It is not used by traders world-wide. It is not cashable or exchangeable by any foreign banks. It is used only by local citizens and residents - not by international companies based in Bermuda (all of which use US dollars). One reason why is Bermuda's total land area of only 21.75 square miles or 35 square kilometers and 85% visitors', international businesses' and imports of consumer goods dependency on the USA.

Yet when visitors wish to use an ATM card in Bermuda to get money from their non-local bank before they go home, they receive Bermuda dollars only, which they cannot use in any other country except Bermuda.

Avoid getting a non-usable overseas currency beyond Bermuda by bringing only US dollars - freely accepted and officially at par everywhere - and if you get change from shops or restaurants in Bermuda money, ask for US dollars instead. If you work legally in Bermuda, are paid in Bermuda dollars and wish to send money back to your home country, go to the Bermuda bank where you are a customer to buy foreign exchange at the prevailing rate and arrange for a wire transfer, safer and far quicker than by postal mail. You can do this online."

The reasons for not going this route would be that Eutopia was and the UPE is a much larger country than Bermuda, and this kind of currency regime is incompatible with the posts by Voskod as the economy mod.

Therefore I would suggest that we follow the model of some other currency that has had a stable link against the USD, like Hong Kong or China, or Argentina for a while.

The average atable income per member of the labour force can be estimated from the fiscal data provided at 21,278 per year. For working age people, the particpation is about comparable with the US. The average income is, as expected, substantially below US levels. Wages are lower in Eutopia, but so is productivity, but moderately skilled labour is cheaper in Eutopia than in the US or Europe, but not as cheap as some other countries. Commodity prices reflect world levels, adjusted for transportation costs and duties (if any). Certain imported goods are more expensive in Eutopia, due to shipping costs, a less competitive retail sector (WAL-MART isn't here yet), and duties left over from the isolationist era, not yet rolled back by our membership in the WTO. This is more than compensated for by lower prices for certain locally produced goods and on services, both of which are produced with the lower cost Eutopian labour. In these sectors, prices had been typically about 2/3 of the US level, although the recent high inflation is eating into that difference. As long as prices in Eutopia averaged lower than the US it was not problem maintaining the currency at the 1:1 to the USD. Recently, the high interest rate here are leading to Eutopia companies borrowing in US dollars (USD) instead of UPE Ducats (UPD), which are swelling the ECB holdings of dollars and making it easy to maintain the peg. Foreign speculators are doing something similar, buying UPD and investing in short term government bonds, so those rates have risen less than ECB prime rate.

Summary of Proposal:

1. The UPE ducat is fixed 1:1 with the US dollar in the spot market by the actions of the ECB.
2. Forward rates are free to trade, and can be estimated using the covered interest arbitrage method.
3. On a Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) basis, prices here were on average 25% less than in the US, but in the past year are only now about 21% less, due to our higher inflation.
4. There is no immediate problem maintaining the currency peg, because of the inflow of USD due to the rate differential, but this could be a potential problem in the future.
5. The recessionary effect of the high interest rates has been muted by the substitution of USD borrowings.
6. Our exports are beginning to soften given the higher costs due to inflation.
7. Tourism dropped to almost nothing due to the ECB bombing, which increases the likelihood of a recession.

 

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I was asked to post here a little problem that cam to my mind.
I was in the process of writing and posting the thread on the LIRA, when i came across different versions of the Eutopian history.
Here is stated that Eutopia assumed a neutral stance in WW2:

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3296796&postcount=2

here instead is stated that Eutopia troops partecipated WW2, in the invasion of southern France:

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3296810&postcount=5

Having to write the story of the Eutopian Paras, i ask here if i can add these lines to the history of the LIRA, in wich i talk about the partecipation of the first paras in Op. Dragoon, enrolled in the British Paras:

"On May 14 1943 Eutopia declared war on the Axis. The Armed forces weren't in shape for a full fledged war. Luckily a small group of high ranked officers were ready to look outside of Eutopia for new ideas and new tactics.
The experience of land warfare in North Africa and Southern Italy were absorbed rapidly in the Eutopian forces.
The Marines were trained for amphibious landings, the Airforce worked hard studying the battle of Britain and a small group of 40 volunteers from the Army travelled to Britain to learn the basics of Parachute jumping.
The group trained at Manchester's Ringway airport with the British Paras, and after graduating they came back to Eutopia to pass what they learned to the first unit of Eutopia paras.
The volunteers applications flocked, and a Company (temporarily named Royal Eutopian Parachutists) was rapidly formed, despite the scepticism of many ambients of the Army.
This unit was attached to British 2nd Independent Parachute Brigade Group, 6th Parachute Btl just after the Brigade was retired from the first line in Italy and prepared to another front.
Eutopian Paras dropped with British, French and Americans units over Southern France, during Operation Dragoon (Eutopian Marines took part in the amphibious landing east of St. Raphael, as part of the American 36th Inf Division).
The operation was a success, the Eutopian Paras fought well and proved two things:
-Eutopia could be trusted as an Ally
-the Eutopian Paras were capable of accomplishing their goals, through hard training and dedication.
The Eutopian forces advanced with the Allies northwards, partecipating in no major combats, for being withdrawn back to Eutopia after May 1945."

After this part i go on talking about the following years of the Paras, until the LIRA name took place (very briefly).
What do you think? Does this collides with other background?

Please consider this GM-approved for debate and please post your proposal above in the CONTENT REVIEW thread for further discussion, along with any other thoughts you have on the subject.

- heagarty


Note to everyone - Busco has been very patient and has tried to get the LIRA off the ground (no pun intended! ) for some time now. Please offer any suggestions for him in the CONTENT REVIEW thread. Thanks!

 

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The documents describing the Eutopian Military say the Eutopian Marines have WWII type landing craft but not which type.

I suggest the LCM http://www.ussrankin.org/id40.htm
They are made of steel, that's the main reason actually.

Please consider this GM-approved for debate and please post your proposal above in the CONTENT REVIEW thread for further discussion, along with any other thoughts you have on the subject.

- heagarty
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The ducat is widely understood to be worth one US dollar. This is reasonable as the currency in Bermuda also has the same relationship with the US dollar. Apparently there are also some other references that say the Ducat is also work one Euro, which would imply some grand currency arrangement, a sort of new Bretton Woods agreement, or is a contradictory point. To resolve the problem (either there is has been a massive currency agreement that hasn't happened in the real world or the ducat has two different values), I would put forward the following content suggestion:

I am not suggestion that we follow the Bermuda model exactly, which is: "Here are the essential facts about the local-only Bermuda Dollar. It is not exportable. It is not used by traders world-wide. It is not cashable or exchangeable by any foreign banks. It is used only by local citizens and residents - not by international companies based in Bermuda (all of which use US dollars). One reason why is Bermuda's total land area of only 21.75 square miles or 35 square kilometers and 85% visitors', international businesses' and imports of consumer goods dependency on the USA.

Yet when visitors wish to use an ATM card in Bermuda to get money from their non-local bank before they go home, they receive Bermuda dollars only, which they cannot use in any other country except Bermuda.

Avoid getting a non-usable overseas currency beyond Bermuda by bringing only US dollars - freely accepted and officially at par everywhere - and if you get change from shops or restaurants in Bermuda money, ask for US dollars instead. If you work legally in Bermuda, are paid in Bermuda dollars and wish to send money back to your home country, go to the Bermuda bank where you are a customer to buy foreign exchange at the prevailing rate and arrange for a wire transfer, safer and far quicker than by postal mail. You can do this online."

The reasons for not going this route would be that Eutopia was and the UPE is a much larger country than Bermuda, and this kind of currency regime is incompatible with the posts by Voskod as the economy mod.

Therefore I would suggest that we follow the model of some other currency that has had a stable link against the USD, like Hong Kong or China, or Argentina for a while.

The average atable income per member of the labour force can be estimated from the fiscal data provided at 21,278 per year. For working age people, the particpation is about comparable with the US. The average income is, as expected, substantially below US levels. Wages are lower in Eutopia, but so is productivity, but moderately skilled labour is cheaper in Eutopia than in the US or Europe, but not as cheap as some other countries. Commodity prices reflect world levels, adjusted for transportation costs and duties (if any). Certain imported goods are more expensive in Eutopia, due to shipping costs, a less competitive retail sector (WAL-MART isn't here yet), and duties left over from the isolationist era, not yet rolled back by our membership in the WTO. This is more than compensated for by lower prices for certain locally produced goods and on services, both of which are produced with the lower cost Eutopian labour. In these sectors, prices had been typically about 2/3 of the US level, although the recent high inflation is eating into that difference. As long as prices in Eutopia averaged lower than the US it was not problem maintaining the currency at the 1:1 to the USD. Recently, the high interest rate here are leading to Eutopia companies borrowing in US dollars (USD) instead of UPE Ducats (UPD), which are swelling the ECB holdings of dollars and making it easy to maintain the peg. Foreign speculators are doing something similar, buying UPD and investing in short term government bonds, so those rates have risen less than ECB prime rate.

Summary of Proposal:

1. The UPE ducat is fixed 1:1 with the US dollar in the spot market by the actions of the ECB.
2. Forward rates are free to trade, and can be estimated using the covered interest arbitrage method.
3. On a Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) basis, prices here were on average 25% less than in the US, but in the past year are only now about 21% less, due to our higher inflation.
4. There is no immediate problem maintaining the currency peg, because of the inflow of USD due to the rate differential, but this could be a potential problem in the future.
5. The recessionary effect of the high interest rates has been muted by the substitution of USD borrowings.
6. Our exports are beginning to soften given the higher costs due to inflation.
7. Tourism dropped to almost nothing due to the ECB bombing, which increases the likelihood of a recession.

First let me commend you on an excellent and very thoughtful proposal. We have taken your suggestion and reviewed it among the ModCorps members.

The issue of Eutopia's currency is, as pointed out, contradictory. However it was enginnered specifically to be that way. 1 Dollar = 1 Ducat, 1 Euro = 1 Ducat, but 1 Dollar DOES NOT = 1 Euro. It is, in fact, a paradox. This is clearly unrealistic. However it was done purposefully.

Much like time, money in Eutopia is fluid. And the currency can be as strong or as weak as we need it to be based on game events.

We have tried to introduce aspects of a hard currency into the game, such as:

1) setting a ducat specific budget
2) requiring players to declare character's annual income and net worth
3) requiring detailed "annual reports" of business assets.

All of these experiments have generally failed due to a lack of knowledge or interest in financial matters by players, complications arriving at a common understanding of currency values due to the game's international player base, etc.

As such, while your suggestion is not only reasonable, rational, and detailed, we believe it would add a layer of complexity to the game that we do not believe the average player could/would take advantage of, and which the Mods do not have the time/expertise/resources to fully exploit.

Thank you for the suggestion, though.

- heagarty
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Quick note: Discussion of approval, nonapproval, etc. should be redirected to OOC. The same with jokes, comments, etc. I am as guilty as the rest of you , but have moved those kinds of posts over to OOC. Let's keep this thread clean.

- heagarty

 

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Sport Popularity

I think we need some clarification on what Sports are popular in Eutopia, because I don't want to be hosting a Cricket mach when no-one likes it. So for clarity, I propose this guide:

1.Association Football (especially in the Latin areas)
2.Rugby (Popular in French and Anglo areas)
3.American Football (only really in the Anglo areas)
4.Cricket (only popular in the Anglo areas, but less so than American Football)
5.Baseball (not very popular, but steadily gaining support)

I might later on do a more detailed version of this, but feel free to vote on it now.

 

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I think we need some clarification on what Sports are popular in Eutopia, because I don't want to be hosting a Cricket mach when no-one likes it. So for clarity, I propose this guide:

1.Association Football (especially in the Latin areas)
2.Rugby (Popular in French and Anglo areas)
3.American Football (only really in the Anglo areas)
4.Cricket (only popular in the Anglo areas, but less so than American Football)
5.Baseball (not very popular, but steadily gaining support)

I might later on do a more detailed version of this, but feel free to vote on it now.

No voting until it's been approved and put into the correct thread.

I'm not sure this is the best ranking, based on game history, but the topic certainly merits discussion.

Please consider this GM-approved for debate and please post your proposal above in the CONTENT REVIEW thread for further discussion, along with any other thoughts you have on the subject.

- heagarty
GM Events

 

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Eutopia and the Lyonesse myth

Eutopia, being a large island in the Atlantic, is sometimes thought of being the basis for the myths or legends about Atlantis and Lyonesse. Since we seem to have stayed above the ocean surface, less credence is placed on the Atlantis myth, leaving the Lyonesse one to flourish, even though Lyonesse is just a Celtic mispronunciation of Atlantis, and it was also supposed to sunk anyway, although perhaps later than Atlantis, as Lyonesse, figures in Arthurian legends, and is described during the Christian era in Jack Vance's Lyonesse Trilogy. Even though there is no scientific evidence (archeological or other) to support this idea, some new age types have latched onto it. Some really fervent believers have turned this into a livelihood, conducting tours of Olde Lyonesse, indicating where certain events took place, with the tour guides dressed in costume. The are occassional conventions and re-enactments. The real Jack Vance is ambivalent about the phenomena, he benefits from the book sales, but risks losing copyright control of the characters if he doesn't pursue flagrant infringements.

Topans and Norse don't like this trend, as it diminishes the perceived significance of their legacy to Eutopia. Both have complained about Lyonesse Sojourners violating their burial grounds.

Some Eutopian nobles have been preparing claims to these ancient realms.