Constant lag/stutters/hangs

[Beeftain]

Bought the Collection and love the idea of the game, really want to learn to play it, but I get nothing but stutter and lag!

Have no problem in many games but EU4 seems really poorly optimised, I am guessing there is problems with getting info anything past Speed 1.

I don't want to replace my HDD for 1 game when I have no issues for CK2 or Civ and those games have plenty of updates late game

I've update all the drivers for my GPU, turned off all the trees\rivers\etc, cleaned up the HDD, lowered resolution, prioritised CPU cores, changed NVIDIA settings. One thing I notice is it lags the most when I am in Diplo mode, it is pretty much hanging at that point!

I would love to upgrade to an SSD but not on the premise for a game which shouldn't be like this on a 2 year old laptop that runs any other game!

Shame because I love playing CK2. EU4 seemed like a really nice alternative to swap between

I have a K73SV i7 version with a 500 HDD/1gb GT540M/8gb RAM

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System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 10/26/2014, 03:36:14
       Machine name: C-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
       System Model: K73SV
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 08/16/11 11:43:52 Ver: 04.06.03
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM CPU @ 2.20GHz (8 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
             Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8104MB RAM
          Page File: 4131MB used, 12074MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 64bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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       Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
          Chip type: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family
           DAC type: Internal
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     Display Memory: 4049 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 977 MB
      Shared Memory: 3071 MB
       Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: unknown
         Monitor Id: SEC544B
        Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (59.998Hz)
        Output Type: Internal
        Driver Name: igdumd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igd10umd64.dll,igdumd32,igd10umd32,igd10umd32
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     Driver Version: 9.17.10.3347
        DDI Version: 11
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 1/29/2014 22:02:36, 12617216 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp: 
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            DXVA-HD: Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
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[eu4application.cpp:738]: Checksum is EU4 v1.7.3 (7d7e)

force_pow2_textures=no
language="l_english"
graphics=
{
	size=
	{
		x=1024
		y=768
	}

	min_gui=
	{
		x=1280
		y=720
	}

	refreshRate=60
	fullScreen=yes
	borderless=no
	shadows=no
	shadowSize=2048
	multi_sampling=0
	anisotropic_filtering=0
	gamma=45.000000
}
sound_fx_volume=0.000000
music_volume=0.000000
scroll_speed=50.000000
camera_rotation_speed=50.000000
zoom_speed=50.000000
mouse_speed=50.000000
master_volume=0.000000
ambient_volume=0.000000
combat_sound_random=6
mapRenderingOptions=
{
	draw_terrain=yes
	draw_water=yes
	draw_borders=yes
	draw_trees=no
	draw_rivers=no
	draw_postfx=no
	draw_sky=yes
	draw_bloom=no
	draw_tooltips=yes
	draw_hires_terrain=no
	draw_citysprawl=no
	draw_shadows=no
	draw_reflections=no
	draw_ambient_objects=no
	draw_particles=no
	moving_units=no
}
camera_speed=50.000000
camera_tilt=100.000000
centered_zoom_in=yes
lastplayer="Player"
lasthost=""
debug_saves=0
autosave="NEVER"
autosave_tocloud=no
difficulty="LUCK_NONE"
outliner=
{
	2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 19 20 
}
outliner_open=yes
messagelist_open=yes
windowmovetime=0.200000
floating_chat_text=yes
hints=no
disabled_hints=
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custom_mapmodes=
{
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}

[systemsettings.cpp:198]: System memory: 0MB
[systemsettings.cpp:200]: CPU speed: 2195MHz
[systemsettings.cpp:207]: Number of processors: 8
[systemsettings.cpp:219]: CPU type: x86
[systemsettings.cpp:264]: OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Build: 7601
[gfx_settings.cpp:25]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen=1, multisample=15
[gfx_settings.cpp:53]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:58]: 0: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
[gfx_settings.cpp:72]: Using Adapter [0] to check for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:83]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:83]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:83]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:98]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:104]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:144]: Graphics device: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
[gfx_settings.cpp:145]: Graphics driver: nvumdshim.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:146]: Driver version: 4448
[gfx_settings.cpp:161]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B78E66-4256-11CF-9362-6F36B4C2C435}
VendorId: 4318
DeviceId: 3572
SubSysId: 375525443
Revision: 161
DriverVersion.HighPart: 589842
DriverVersion.LowPart: 856416


[gfx_settings.cpp:181]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:229]: Video memory amount: 4044MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:230]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:231]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:232]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:233]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:234]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:235]: MaxTextureWidth: 16384
[gfx_settings.cpp:236]: MaxTextureHeight: 16384
[gfx_settings.cpp:237]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:240]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:241]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:245]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:250]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[main.cpp:680]: Text database created
[systemsettings.cpp:198]: System memory: 0MB
[systemsettings.cpp:200]: CPU speed: 2195MHz
[systemsettings.cpp:207]: Number of processors: 8
[systemsettings.cpp:219]: CPU type: x86
[systemsettings.cpp:264]: OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 Build: 7601
[gfx_settings.cpp:25]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen=1, multisample=15
[gfx_settings.cpp:53]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:58]: 0: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
[gfx_settings.cpp:72]: Using Adapter [0] to check for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:83]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:83]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:83]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:98]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:104]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:144]: Graphics device: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
[gfx_settings.cpp:145]: Graphics driver: nvumdshim.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:146]: Driver version: 4448
[gfx_settings.cpp:161]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B78E66-4256-11CF-9362-6F36B4C2C435}
VendorId: 4318
DeviceId: 3572
SubSysId: 375525443
Revision: 161
DriverVersion.HighPart: 589842
DriverVersion.LowPart: 856416


[gfx_settings.cpp:181]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:229]: Video memory amount: 4044MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:230]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:231]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:232]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:233]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:234]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:235]: MaxTextureWidth: 16384
[gfx_settings.cpp:236]: MaxTextureHeight: 16384
[gfx_settings.cpp:237]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:240]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:241]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:245]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:250]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:25]: Loading settings for adapter 0, fullscreen=1, multisample=15
[gfx_settings.cpp:53]: Graphic Adapters:
[gfx_settings.cpp:58]: 0: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
[gfx_settings.cpp:72]: Using Adapter [0] to check for multi-sampling support:
[gfx_settings.cpp:83]: 2 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:83]: 4 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:83]: 8 samples supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:89]: 16 samples NOT supported, yet set as option. Changing to 2 samples.
[gfx_settings.cpp:98]: Using Adapter [0]:
[gfx_settings.cpp:104]: Succeeded to create a device [D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING].
[gfx_settings.cpp:144]: Graphics device: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
[gfx_settings.cpp:145]: Graphics driver: nvumdshim.dll
[gfx_settings.cpp:146]: Driver version: 4448
[gfx_settings.cpp:161]:


Dumping all gfx info:
DeviceIdentifier: {D7B78E66-4256-11CF-9362-6F36B4C2C435}
VendorId: 4318
DeviceId: 3572
SubSysId: 375525443
Revision: 161
DriverVersion.HighPart: 589842
DriverVersion.LowPart: 856416


[gfx_settings.cpp:181]: Instancing supported.
[gfx_settings.cpp:229]: Video memory amount: 4044MB
[gfx_settings.cpp:230]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:231]: MaxVertexBlendMatrices: 4
[gfx_settings.cpp:232]: MaxVertexBlendMatrixIndex: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:233]: MaxSimultaneousTextures: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:234]: MaxTextureBlendStages: 8
[gfx_settings.cpp:235]: MaxTextureWidth: 16384
[gfx_settings.cpp:236]: MaxTextureHeight: 16384
[gfx_settings.cpp:237]: Support for Anisotropic filtering found.
[gfx_settings.cpp:240]: Max Anisotropic filtering: 16
[gfx_settings.cpp:241]: Anisotropic filtering set to: 0
[gfx_settings.cpp:245]: Vertex Shader version: 3.0
[gfx_settings.cpp:250]: Pixel Shader version: 3.0
[graphicssettings.cpp:449]: Using multisampling: 4
[graphics.cpp:348]: Creating device with: HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
Fullscreen=no
Resolution=1000x600
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 320 200 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 320 240 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 400 300 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 512 384 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 640 400 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 640 480 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 800 600 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1152 864 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1280 600 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1280 720 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1280 800 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1366 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1440 900 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1600 900 60
[graphics.cpp:389]: Done creating device.
[main.cpp:870]: EU4 Version Jul 31 2014 : 10:48:37
[main.cpp:879]: Creating application...
[main.cpp:925]: Initializing application...
[eu4application.cpp:384]: Initializing application...
[eu4application.cpp:393]: Done initializing application
[eu4application.cpp:398]: Loading cursor...
[eu4application.cpp:469]: Done loading cursor
[eu4application.cpp:471]: Initializing sound...
[eu4application.cpp:501]: Done initializing sound
[eu4application.cpp:503]: Initializing graphics...
[graphicssettings.cpp:459]: Not using multisampling.
[graphics.cpp:348]: Creating device with: HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
Fullscreen=yes
RefreshRate=60
Resolution=800x600
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 320 200 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 320 240 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 400 300 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 512 384 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 640 400 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 640 480 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 800 600 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1024 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1152 864 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1280 600 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1280 720 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1280 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1280 800 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1360 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1366 768 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1440 900 60
[graphicssettings.cpp:425]: Usable res: 1600 900 60
[graphics.cpp:389]: Done creating device.
[eu4application.cpp:538]: Done initializing graphics
[main.cpp:928]: Running application...

 

[Beeftain]

Still not fixed itself, tried lots of things

 

[AndrewT]

Are you 100% sure the game is running on your nVidia card, not your Intel? That would explain it.

 

[Beeftain]

Definately running on my Nvidia card, I have made sure of this

 

[AndrewT]

Does this happen from the moment you start the game? You're not using any mods?

Please report the temperatures of your CPU and video (GPU)
1/ before starting the game up and
2/ after say 20 minutes' play. If your PC's vendor has given you no way of reading temperatures, install


GPU-Z http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
and

CPU-Z http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html


or
SPEEDFAN http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

 

[Beeftain]

Not using any mods and it is from the moment I start the game, I will run it for 20 minutes and post the temps before and after startup as requested

 

[Beeftain]

http://postimg.org/image/9nly45tgf/ - This is pre loadup

http://postimg.org/image/skhroxwy1/ - This is after the game has been open for 20 minutes

Basically the game stutters when I pan around the map at any speed above 1, when I am in Diplo map mode the game just hangs and lags, the movement of the ships and soldiers are lagged, there is no fluidity. In other map modes I can just about manage at speed 2 but it is really frustrating to play

When I pause however there is no issues or lags/hangs etc and panning around the map is smooth

Like I said previously, CK2 runs at speed 5 with barely a hiccup without having to change a thing! Only ever pauses when it autosaves

Hope you can help!

 

[AndrewT]

This is a temperature problem I believe, the PC is under-clocking both GPU and CPU to save them from damage (note your second GPU-Z image is showing the Intel info, not the nVidia). And the Intel is up to 79c; are you 200% sure the game is in the nVidia ... ?

In any case, clean out all vents from dust, check all fans are running, check the vents are not obstructed by objects on your desk or floor, etc. If these measured don't reduce the temps you might need professional help.

 

[jpd]

The GPU-Z snapshots are not of the same video board. The pre-loadup is for the NVidia board, and the 20 minutes-into-game is for the Intel integrated graphics. Since your log files indicate you're supposed to run on the NVidia, a GPU-Z snapshot of said NVidia board for the second snapshot would have been more appropriate.

That said, the i7 is running a tad on the hot side. When I run EU4, my i7 temp goes from like 37 degrees to about 46 degrees.

But there is something else I notice in the second screen shot. EU4 is Windowed on the desktop, not full screen. When running in windows mode, most GPU's can't approach their maximum rendering speeds, because the desktop and all the other open applications need some time from the GPU for their own rendering. Not to mention that in windowed mode, the GPU is restricted in it's memory management, as it needs to reserve memory for regular desktop painting, and the frame buffers that go with it.

And, frankly, I have no idea how exactly the two GPU's work together, where one paints the desktop frame buffer (including the final image frames for the EU4 window), while the other GPU does the actual rendering of said final image. In any event, pixels need to be copied over from the internal frame buffer of the NVidia to the internal frame buffer of the Intel for each frame that EU4 renders, slowing things down.

 

[Beeftain]

I am going to open up the base unit and check the fan

Yes I saw that I hadn't switched to the readouts of the Nvidia card after 20 mins, so I checked it again myself and it was using the GT540 but still heating up the Intel.

It was in windowed purely so I could see the readouts at the same time the game was open, usually I play in full screen and I get the same results in either mode

I will update once I have opened the base up and cleaned the fans out!

 

[Beeftain]

Wow, just saw a video how to open up a K73SV and its like taking apart the whole unit with 100 screws to remember their place!!

Not sure I am up to the task! Unless anyone has some tips of course!

 

[AndrewT]

Nope, if you are not confident don't even start. Seek professional help at this point, please!

See, if it's not just dust, it will be something like the heatsink thermal paste needing to be replaced.

 

[Beeftain]

Going to buy a can of compressed air to see if I can clean it out through the vents, if it doesn't work i'll take it into my local computer store

Don't worry, won't risk it if I am not comfortable

Thanks for all your help so far! I might have not caught this problem and it could have gotten alot worse!

Appreciate it

 

[jpd]

As for the intel heating up while using your NVidia:

That's completely logical. From the temp readouts you can see the temp of each of the i7 cores is heating up. The intel GPU is part of the same intel chip, and any heat generated in one section of the chip will, invariably, heat up the entire chip. Yes, there will be localised heat hotspots within the chip itself, but that's not something a regular temp sensor will pick up. Temp sensors pick up the averaged temp over a larger chip area.

 

[Beeftain]

After using the compressed air it has reduced the temperature a fair bit, the game is running alot smoother

BUT

It is still lagging and stuttering when in Diplomacy mode, I really don't understand why it is just this mode, the rest is fine at x3 and x4 speed

It just means I will have to pause during that mode but any speed x1 or more in Diplo mode I can barely pan the map or zoom in/out, not sure why this is

Seems the compressed air has cleaned out a fair bit of crap that must have been sitting in the fan

 

[AndrewT]

You may want to get the machine professionally cleaned out, and the heatsink compound renewed, and so on.

Diplomacy mode has always been slower than the others, never been sure why, to be honest!

 

[Beeftain]

Since I got AoW and cleaned the fans/vents the game has been working really well!

I am due to upgrade at Xmas time anyway, so I will get a better gaming laptop, but I guess to sell this thing I will have to get it professionally cleaned and re-thermal pasted

Thanks for all your help! Really enjoying this new DLC, and the heavy metal music DLC is amazing!