Consolidated China Improvement Pack

unmerged(46195) · Dec 10, 2005

mib said:
Manchukuo means Manchu Empire. So "Kingdom of Manchukuo" is redundant. It was an empire, too.

Only problem I can see is that the CHI player would be researching a land doctrine with von Falkenhausen and suddenly all his years of investment will be in vain...

Also, sleep von Falkenhausen as a general, and any other German advisor tag-alongs. I remember a security minister that came along with von Falkenhausen.

Will do.

We can add an event to get them back if ROC joins the Axis.

If they join the Allies... we can add Stillwell as an infantry oriented land doctrine researcher. BTW is there an event to wake Claire Chennault in 1.3a?

For Comminterm we can create FB Polynin as an Air doctine tech team. I have no canidates for land doctrine, though we could just use a boosted Whampu Academy.

Lordadmiral · Dec 10, 2005

mib said:
Only problem I can see is that the CHI player would be researching a land doctrine with von Falkenhausen and suddenly all his years of investment will be in vain...

Thats no problem, if a TechTeam gets a sleep event (or a death date) and is currently researching something, the research will be completed and the TechTeam will then go to sleep emidiatly.

unmerged(46195) · Dec 10, 2005

What to do with the Warlords as ROC?

I really do not know what happened, but it seems that a number of the Warlords became ministers of in the ROC. Is it then that the ROC did not have much authority in their "fiefdoms"?

Any information on the relationship between the ROC and the Warlords would be greatly appreciated.

unmerged(38833) · Dec 10, 2005

Lordadmiral said:
Thats no problem, if a TechTeam gets a sleep event (or a death date) and is currently researching something, the research will be completed and the TechTeam will then go to sleep emidiatly.

Sounds like an excellent exploit... Begin researching a tech that normally would be way ahead of its time and/or take a long time to finish before the tech team gets the sleep event, and voilà, a new tech completed giving you a nice tech advantage.

The way it should be made is so that the percentage completed is stored whenever your tech teams vanish, or you drop down one tech slot. That way you don`t loose precious research or gain an unfair exploit. /adds to suggestins for next patch.

Lordadmiral · Dec 10, 2005

Kinseek said:
Sounds like an excellent exploit... Begin researching a tech that normally would be way ahead of its time and/or take a long time to finish before the tech team gets the sleep event, and voilà, a new tech completed giving you a nice tech advantage.

The way it should be made is so that the percentage completed is stored whenever your tech teams vanish, or you drop down one tech slot. That way you don`t loose precious research or gain an unfair exploit. /adds to suggestins for next patch.

You misunderstood me

, the Tech, that the TechTeam you send to Sleep, isn't completed emidiatly, it uses the same time as if the team didn't send to sleep.
Sorry for my poor english

here is an example:

KRUPP starts the research of Medium Tanks in december 1938, then an event pops up saying something like a Meteor will collide with the Earth exactly where The Krupp Manufactures are and to the exact time when the Medium Tanks will be finished researching. So Time goes on and a pop up tells you the resarch of Medium Tanks by Krupp is finished and you click on the Techscreen,you see there is no Krupp anymore

, because of the meteor in the event that puts the Team to sleep, earlier..... :rofl:
I know lousy :wacko: example but I think you get what i'm trying to explain

unmerged(38833) · Dec 10, 2005

That I did not understand. Are you saying the research done is "stored" until I put another team to research the same tech, or that the research is still progressing "invisibly" behind the scenes so to say?

mib · Dec 11, 2005

What I think he's saying is, that if Krupp starts researching Improved Medium Tanks, on July 1939, and is supposed to be done with it on October 1939, and then on September, an event sleeps Krupp, Krupp will still research the tech until it's done on October 1939, and then once it's done it disappears from the tech team list. Right?

The warlords and their leaders and their tech teams should be available for CHI once annexed. Minus their respective advisors and such. Also, many tech teams are fairly redundant (like the different universities for different warlords) so there isn't a need to include ALL of them, just enough to represent a general increase in CHI's consolidation of power.

unmerged(46195) · Dec 11, 2005

I am putting up what I have done so far, I have done a little testing:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8961399/CCIPvA0_1.rar.html
1. Back up relavant files.
2. Drag and drop into relavant folders (IE
CCIP\GFX\event_pics into
C:\Program Files\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron 2\GFX\events_pics
Etc.

Includes:
1. New Fourth Army event + Pic.
2. Recognition of Manchuko event + Pic.
3. Stillwell tech team, wake event+Pics
4. Alternate Hanyang tech team pic.
5. Current Province.csv

NOTE: The event range I am using 99999-99995 works with vanillia but might not with other event mods.

mib said:
The warlords and their leaders and their tech teams should be available for CHI once annexed. Minus their respective advisors and such. Also, many tech teams are fairly redundant (like the different universities for different warlords) so there isn't a need to include ALL of them, just enough to represent a general increase in CHI's consolidation of power.

I was thinking about having a post-ccp event along the lines of a join us ultimatum, that way if China is somehow a democracy (Hedge bet in the Xi'an incident+ Form the Unified Front does it), they can at least have the chance to snag up the warlords. I was trying to think up AI percentages for compliance.

Anyways there is an event to start the Civil War already in, it is in need of a "little" renovation. By that I mean a complete overhaul

[Edit: Code cut: No longer even close to modified event.]

Lordadmiral · Dec 11, 2005

mib said:
What I think he's saying is, that if Krupp starts researching Improved Medium Tanks, on July 1939, and is supposed to be done with it on October 1939, and then on September, an event sleeps Krupp, Krupp will still research the tech until it's done on October 1939, and then once it's done it disappears from the tech team list. Right?

Thats exactly what i meant, thx for making it clear

Again sorry for my bad english....

unmerged(46195) · Dec 11, 2005

Starting work on the Chinese Civil War. Found what I think is a good site for resource material:
http://www.uglychinese.org/civil_wars.htm

Key Points:
1. Breakup of the Unified Front; alliances between KMT and warlords should be broken up. As cooperation between warlord forces and NRA disentigrated pretty quickly.
2. Absorbtion of Manchuko Military (300,000 men - 10 divisions) and two ethnic Korean divisions by the CCP and captured Japanese equipment (30,000 artillery pieces (~Add 6 Artillery brigades) and add 1000 supplies). This was and will be dependant upon the Soviet invasion of Manchuko. OR CCP conquest of Manchuko in Sino-Japanese war.
3. Growing civil disatisfaction with the KMT, due to Chan Kai Shek's cronism and heavy-handed ruling, rampant corruption, and economic calamity.

Other points:
1. CCP might recieve 14 soviet submarines (2 groups) with the capture of Dailian (SOV event), and they will recieve a unit of TP + a unit of convoys.
2. ROC should suffer from partisian activity. (How to impliment?)
3. The US arbitration should have some chance (small) of success, increasing likelyhood with more free government types; 80% SL, 40% ML, 20% SC, 10% PA. Domestic slider effects should be graded accordingly.

unmerged(38833) · Dec 11, 2005

Duke_of_BOOM! said:
2. ROC should suffer from partisian activity. (How to impliment?)

You could have an event (or several that triggers over time?) that makes it so that several provinces owned by ROC cease to be national provinces, and making sure there is a partisan activity there (in effect making it occupied territory). Maybe call it "Communist ideals gains grounds" or something? If ROC should defeat Communist China, then they get all their cores back.

This is if it`s not possible to add partisan activity to own national provinces.

unmerged(46195) · Dec 12, 2005

Working in chronological order, I realized I forgot to add the Defection of Wang Jing-Wei event... so I side tracked to make a minister list:

Tentative New Minister list:

Code:

SC
Soong May-ling -  Chief of Air Force:Army Aviation Doctrine wake 37 Death 2003
Chiang Wei-kuo - Head of state:Stern Imperialist wake 45

FA
Sheng Shicai -  Decisive Battle Doctrine wake 1937 death 1970
wang jing-wei -  Foreign Minister:The Cloak-and-Dagger Schemer

ML
Add/Change:
52048;Chief of Army;He Yingqin;39;ML;Decisive Battle Doctrine;High;M52048;x
52061;Chief of Navy;Chan Chak;43;ML;Indirect Approach Doctrine;High;M52061;x
Add:
Soong May-ling - Head of State:Autocratic Charmer, wake 1936 Death 2003
Sun Ke - Head of Government:Silent Workhorse 1942 (wake) Death 1962
K'ung Hsiang-hsi - Minister of Armament:Resource Industrialist death 1967
Hsu Yong Chang - Minister of Armament: Infantry Proponent wake 1941
Ta-you Wu - Minister of Armament:Theoretical Scientist wake?
Chiang Wei-kuo - Chief of Army: Guns and Butter Doctrine 43 
Pai Ch'ung-hsi - Chief of Staff:  School of Mass Combat wake 1937
Sun Li-jen - Chief of Staff:School of Psychology wake 1943
Henry Heng Hsu -  Minister of Intelligence: Naval Intelligence Specialist wake 43
Chu Chia-Hua - Minister of Intelligence: Political Specialist
V.K. Wellington Koo - Foreign Minister:Great Compromiser wake 1936 death '85
Chiang Ching-kuo - Minister of Security:Crime Fighter wake 1942 death 1988
Liu Chi-Sheng - Chief of Air Force:  Air Superiority Doctrine

SL
Cao Yu - Head of State:  Popular Figurehead
Yuen Ren Chao - Minister of Intelligence:  Dismal Enigma

Thoughts, suggestions, comments? And most importantly suggestions for additions?

I am targeting the FA-ML spectum so as to cover SC to NS with ministers. I might add Soong Ch'ing-ling as anouther SL minister... she did side with the KMT for a while. But where to put her?

Lt Hilsdorf · Dec 12, 2005

Want partisan activity in ROC? Use the following, not very well know commands. One increases the general revolk risk a province and the other causes a revolt in a province. Useing "-1" instead of a spcific provicne will cause this to happen in a random province.

command = { type = revolt which = XXX } #XXX = province, -1 for random province
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = XXX value = XX } #XXX = province, -1 for random province, XX = amount revolt risk increases

unmerged(11633) · Dec 12, 2005

G'day guys, nice work.

Out of interest, will the left-radical regime based in Guangdong be included as a seperate shadow cabinet, or will there be no LWR ministers? (And yes, I know Wang Jingwei would lead the Guomindang left).

mib said:
I remember a security minister that came along with von Falkenhausen.

No, Walther Stennes, leader of Chiang's bodyguards, was unafiliated with the German military mission, having fled Nazi Germany many years before.

I could also look up the makeup of the Japanese collaborationist Nanjing Army is you want.

mib · Dec 13, 2005

Thanks Gjerg.

DoB: Don't forget to include Manchukuo tech teams in CHI's too!

This is just a wet dream of mine but I want to be able to recapture the Amur watershed (and perhaps more) and have them as cores if there is a Soviet-Chinese war. Also, sleep the "United Front against Soviet aggression" event - I had no united front with any warlord (it was me, korea, burma, indochina, indian, pakistan and japan) and I was the agressor, having joined the evil evil axis.

mib · Dec 13, 2005

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Manchukuo tech teams that should be assimilated into China's:

6400;South Manchuria Railway Co.;T6400;4;1930;1970;industrial_engineering;general_equipment;electronics;management;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
6410;Mukden Arsenal;T1003;4;1930;1970;artillery;general_equipment;chemistry;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
6411;Showa Steel Works;T13;5;1930;1970;industrial_engineering;mechanics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

Just rename "Showa Steel Works" to "Anshan Iron & Steel Works".

unmerged(46195) · Dec 13, 2005

Lt Hilsdorf said:
Want partisan activity in ROC? Use the following, not very well know commands. One increases the general revolk risk a province and the other causes a revolt in a province. Useing "-1" instead of a spcific provicne will cause this to happen in a random province.

command = { type = revolt which = XXX } #XXX = province, -1 for random province
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = XXX value = XX } #XXX = province, -1 for random province, XX = amount revolt risk increases

Just what I needed, thanks.

G'day guys, nice work.

Out of interest, will the left-radical regime based in Guangdong be included as a seperate shadow cabinet, or will there be no LWR ministers? (And yes, I know Wang Jingwei would lead the Guomindang left).

I would include them; so far I have Zhou(/Chong) Gongbo, Jiang Shijun(/Jiang Guanqian), Ding Mocun, Li Shiqun (inteligence head), Cheng Kung-po, General Teiichi Suzuki controlled thier armed forces, but I only have a picture for Teiichi Suzuki.

[Edit to add; Zhou Gonbo and Wang Jingwei would both be desent choices for LWR minsters, though Jiang Shijun and Ding Mocun are more in the FA camp.]

I will edit the china surrender event to install them as ministers, as I get photos of them.

I could also look up the makeup of the Japanese collaborationist Nanjing Army is you want.

Thanks for the offer, but I don't think I will need it.

unmerged(46195) · Dec 13, 2005

mib said:
Thanks Gjerg.

DoB: Don't forget to include Manchukuo tech teams in CHI's too!

This is just a wet dream of mine but I want to be able to recapture the Amur watershed (and perhaps more) and have them as cores if there is a Soviet-Chinese war. Also, sleep the "United Front against Soviet aggression" event - I had no united front with any warlord (it was me, korea, burma, indochina, indian, pakistan and japan) and I was the agressor, having joined the evil evil axis.

The Amur Basin is looks like it pretty much all of southern Primorsk and a thin slice of South-East Sibera, or what JAP gets as part of the Bitter Peace.

Easy enough, also if you are going for historic claims we can add Sakhalin Isl. as well. I was already thinking of adding Macao and Hongkong through a post China Consolidation event.

Manchukuo tech teams that should be assimilated into China's:

Ok, we are. Though that gives a large number of somewhat redundant teams.

unmerged(46195) · Dec 13, 2005

I am putting up Alpha 0.11
http://rapidshare.de/files/9077932/CCIPvA0_11.rar.html

Changes:
v0.11

Code:

	v0.11
	1. Made the Xi'an Incident CCP dependant, though it should almost always fire under AI control
	2. Redid the United front events, as CCP-ROC alliance seems hardcoded not to fire, I think that the change was for the better.
		a. CCP has the option to not join the United Front (event), again though it should almost always fire under AI control
		b. Rather than an alliance between the CCP and ROC the United Front:
			1. Makes a non-agression Pact between the CHI CHC
			2. Gives military acess to CHI-CHC, CHC-CHI, and CHC gains axcess to Shanxi
			3. All of which are canceled by the New Fourth Army incident.
		c. CHC declares war on Japan as part of the United Front.
		d. Added United Front Pic 
	3. The CHI Move Industry event will not fire if the effected areas are occupied.
	4. Added the Wang Jingwei Defects incident with an event pic.
	5. Alternate Clair Chennault tech team pic.
	6. Added/Reworked 2 existing ministers. (They pull double duty.)

mib · Dec 13, 2005

Hm. We do have quite a few redundant tech teams. How about just absorbing the arsenals and such... right now, there's Hanyang, Guangdong and Taiyuan arsenals. Not nearly enough if you wanna research both infantry and armoured techs... and the 3 tech teams from Manchukuo don't overlap with existing specialties of the original tech teams, they have some skills that the other arsenals lack.

The Amur Watershed should include the southern part of Primorsk, and also Chita and its surrounding regions near Lake Baikal. Alternatively, the player should be able to re-impose the Treaty of Nerchinsk that gives him up to Ohkotsk... or more the supremely egomaniacal, Alma-Ata and the Tian Shan Mt Range... *drool*

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