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So we are going to have a joint election platform.
 

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Originally posted by Jools
As the Libertarian Party is larger than the Nationalist Party I say it should go like this

MP: Free Republican
MP: Libertarian Party
MP: Free Republican
MP: Nationalist Party
MP: Free Republican
MP: Libertarian Party
MP: Free Republican

Seems about right, after all the NP IS a VERY SMALL party, and the Libertarians are an average sized party. However since last time we won 6 seats, the NP should still be in, especially that the Left is now divided. I hope you approve this now so I can forward it to the Libertarians.
:) i like this list. and we already have hajji giray for president. you and him can take this list and work out the details with the libertatians and nationalis. if they have some problem you guys cant work out let me know.

hopefully the monarchs will vote our president in also. if they do then we shall need to work out an agreement with them to get a big coalition formed. :)
 

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The exercise i planed have now started.
The press release from the armed forces is in that thread if anyone is intrested.
 

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As the Libertarian Party is larger than the Nationalist Party I say it should go like this

MP: Free Republican
MP: Libertarian Party
MP: Free Republican
MP: Nationalist Party
MP: Free Republican
MP: Libertarian Party
MP: Free Republican

Seems about right, after all the NP IS a VERY SMALL party, and the Libertarians are an average sized party. However since last time we won 6 seats, the NP should still be in, especially that the Left is now divided. I hope you approve this now so I can forward it to the Libertarians.

I can agree with this in the interest of moving things forward, as time continues to wind down. Also I am confident we will win at least a third of the popular vote. Thus making the positioning of the first four slots a matter of ego and little more. Though, I wonder if the left will remain split. I view a joint ticket among left leaning parties as a strong possiblity.

However, I must reiterate that my true goal is not a seat in parliament, but the position of MHSA. I do hope that when we formulate the new government, my name will be remembered for this position.

Since both the LP and the Nationalist Party are unregistered parties, am I correct in assuming that we will have to technically merge with the FR? If that is the case, then please consider this a formal request for the Nationalist Party and all its members to join the Free Republican Party.

Also I will contact members of the CRE to see where they stand regarding the presidency and the possiblity of a ruling coalition.

Jacob Langley

OOC: If it is needed, and only if it is needed, I request to join the FR.
 

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One point: Unless Craig Ashley merges with us, he can't run. He needs three members. Also, should I run for parliament just in case?
 

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One step ahead of you HG. :) However I should point out that in their current state, the LP is also not a registered party. They too would have to join the FR umbrella.

Just for clarification, I will still maintain the Nationalist Party thread, as I view the Nationalist Party as a party within a party.
 

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So you've joined?
 

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Should we merge with the Libertarians we could stay Free Republicans or we could become

Republican Libertarians
Libertarian Republicans
Republicans for Liberty
Conservative Party
Reform Party
Progressive Party
Progressive Reform Party
Nationalist Republicans
or just plain
Republican Party
 

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I dont think the merging is necessary, I think independant people can start from our party list but I am waiting for Mel to clarify.
 

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indeed it is VERY important to know what we can/must do to form our alliance with the nationals and Libs. hopefully soon we can know where the monarchs stand on this election as i am unsure :confused:

so it appears what we will do is make our HQ thread the HQ of the alliance and the other 2 parties maintain their hq as the hq of just their party and our hq is our parties+the alliance HQ?????:confused:
 

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Basically there's only one way to get them on our ballot. At the moment, neither of them are registered parties, and only registered parties can form alliances. So there are only two options:

1) All Libertarians and Nationalists become Free Republicans.
2) The Free Republican Party, Libertarian Party, and Nationalist Party all merge into one new, extra-large party (using one of the nations I mentioned, possibly)
 

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1) All Libertarians and Nationalists become Free Republicans.
2) The Free Republican Party, Libertarian Party, and Nationalist Party all merge into one new, extra-large party (using one of the nations I mentioned, possibly)

From my perspective it's all semantics. Either proposal will do, since the Nationalist Party will continue to function as a seperate party or faction no matter what legal maneuvoring we have to make.

Whatever we do it will merely be a formality to circumvent existing election laws. Though if we decide to go with option two, I like the Nationalist Republicans or the just the plain old Republicans. Conservative is party is OK too. Should we merge, we would need to elect new party officials. Though wasn't there a registration deadline for parties? Would a new super-right party have a place on the ballot? Hopefully Mel will pop in soon and clarify exactly what our options are.

Also, I have contacted the CRE, but have received no response yet. I'm confident they will see the mutual benifts of working together with us.
 

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Sorry to tell you this Mr. Langley, but your radical views are so unpopular that they will probably take away votes from us. :( :( :(
 
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Mr. Morgan,

I do not agree on every stance of the Free Republicans as well, but fighting and arguing amongst ourselves will only strengthen the left. Is that what you want? I suggest we put aside our considerable differences and a work on our common goal of defeating the Rally for Democracy and their comrades in arms, the ESRP.

That said, if my presence in this alliance is not wanted, then I will happily leave. I was under the impression we were all willing to work together, but perhaps I was mistaken. I do know that I still have not been officially welcomed into the party by either yourself or party president, Jacob Lundgren. Perhaps this is your passive-aggressive way of telling me something?

I wish to know where we stand. Do we work together for the common good? Or are you willing to abandon the faithful members of the right? Either way, I will move on and the Nationalist Party will survive. I'm not so sure about the Free Republicans. The choice is yours.

Also, if you are referring to my efforts to open communications with the CRE, then I believe you are dreadfully mistaken. Already myself and members of the CRE have worked together for pursue common goals. The Nationalist Manifestation March is a product of this cooperation. I am sure, if allowed, I will be able to negotiate an agreement with the CRE which will deliver us the ability to create a ruling coalition. Then again, perhaps my efforts are not appreciated. I eagerly await your response.

Sincerely,

Jacob Langley

OOC: Hijjay Giray, please refer to me in character as Jacob Langley and not Craig Ashley. It will help relieve any confusion.

To All Members of the FR,

I believe that your deputy spokesperson and presidential nominee, Charles Morgan, is opposed to working with the Nationalist Party and the conservative base of the right. I have not been in contact with party president, Jacob Lundgren, so I do not know his opinion.

I also believe that many of the rank and file members of this party see the wisdom of our respective parties pooling their resources. I urge you to make your opinions known and let Mr. Morgan know that winning the coming elections is far more important than political infighting amongst ourselves. I am eager to work with the FR and to build a better Eutopia. So let's end this foolishness and focus on capturing both the presidential office and a majority in parliament.

Thank You

Jacob Langley
 
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[OOC: Changed "Ashley" to "Langley". And if you could please return the favor; my IC name is Charles Morgan.]

IC:

I am very concerned about voters. It seems the Rally for Democracy AND ESRP parties have taken to hating your guts ;), and they probably have enough power to sway the neutral people into thinking that Mr. Langley will do harm to the country. If they weren't so vocal in denouncing you, your popularity, I can assure you, would be much better.

However, us Free Republicans tend not to listen to the "Public Disinterest" and "The EUtopian Worker", so we will welcome you to our "umbrella". But unfortunately if they see you as a radical, then they'll start seeing the FR as radicals, so really the best way out of the situation would be for them to spontaneously shut up.

But we've proven Jools isn't a loony, we'll prove you're not so "fringe group" as you are. So come aboard...

[OOC: What I'm saying is, I don't want this party to be attacked as a radical fringe group. That's all I'm saying! But we can probably convince them otherwise.]

(One thing, though: I am taking "...the Nationalist Party will survive. I'm not so sure about the Free Republicans." as a threat.)
 

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Mr. Morgan,

I thank you for officially welcoming to the Free Republicans and I am glad any misunderstanding between us has been cleared up.

I must however make this clear. The Nationalist Party has a set agenda and platform. On many issues we agree, at least in principle. There are some areas where I feel your party leans closer to the left than I care to be.

More than that, we seem to have a philosophical difference as well. You seem to believe that politics is a gentleman's game and should be played by a gentleman's rules. You find the hostile attention the left has given my party as a negative. I disagree. Our name has been in the headlines of almost every major publication in Eutopia. The word is getting out. Will there be some so called neutral voters that are turned off by the Nationalist message? Naturally. But I believe the term neutral voter is a misleading one. Just because a voter has not registered with a politcal party, does not mean he does not have preconcieved notions. We, as conservatives, need to rally our base. That is what my actions are designed to do.

The left's smear campaign against the Nationalist Party is useful on several levels. One - any time spent attacking me or fending off my attacks is time that cannot be spent promoting their ideas or party. Two - their hostility towards my party will only serve to rally our sleeping base. Three - Unlike yourself, I believe politics is a dirty game. Its warfare of the mind and idealogies. I will give no quarter and expect the same from my opponents. If I roll in the filth, those that take me on can't help but get a little dirty. Already we've seen PI abandon their high minded philosphy and level several personal attacks against me, and EW has even concocted a bizzare conspiracy theory. Tell me, who is losing credibility, me or them?

I do understand your desire to maintain the FR's "moderate" or "mainstream" appeal. Feel free to release statements disassociating yourselves with the actions of the Nationalist Party. I understand the nature of politics and will not retaliate. In short, you take 'em high and I'll take 'em low.

Now let's win this election.

Sincerely,

Jacob Langley

OOC: Langley's going to keep the rhetoric hot. It's the only style he knows. Do what you must to protect the reputation of the FR. Distance yourself from the NP and woo the centrist voters that are undecided. Langley will get the hard core right wingers, and hit the lefties with every dirty trick in the book. Just remember who fought in the gutter for you guys.

Take it as a threat if you like. He was merely stating that he questions the long term future of the FR should they lose this election. Personally, I like seeing a personal grudge develop between Morgan and Langley. Should make governing a lot of fun, assuming we win.:D :cool:

EDIT: Perhaps someone else should be the point man for talks with the CRE. Langley is a little too hot for most of them. I'll talk with Royalist, who is a hard core fellow, and see what he can deliver as well.
 

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well i did appoint J. baner to his post with a surprise so i hope they have good memories of me :)
 

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Originally posted by Craig Ashley
Should we merge, we would need to elect new party officials. Though wasn't there a registration deadline for parties? Would a new super-right party have a place on the ballot? Hopefully Mel will pop in soon and clarify exactly what our options are.
[OOC:

The options are still the same - i.e., a merger between your parties in one form or another. :)

As long as a party submits a list of candidates by the relevant deadline (February 15) and has official standing at the time it does so, it will be placed on the ballot. That goes for all currently existing parties as well as for potential new ones.]