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You really know how to play. When you started what did you "tweak" your production to? I need help setting that right and thought you can maybe give me some advice.
Naval combat is ridiculous in your AAR, you could defeat the entire Spanish Armada ith a Destroyer, but not in this game apparently. This game is very flawed if the Naval combat model is like this across the board.
could the naval war problem be with the overstacking penelties to your fleet? i know in hoi its 12 flotillas before you get the penalty.
and yeah the ai shouldve used roeun as a divversion, and landed more troops north. that would've been something
and yeah the ai shouldve used roeun as a divversion, and landed more troops north. that would've been something
List: I just bought anything I needed, and sold the rest. In the first chapter the factories I built are listed anyway, though I think its qutie possible to open alot better than that.
PanzerLeader: It surely is, 32 BB's have to work hard to defeat a fleet of less then twice its size of wooden ships, and it would even lose alot of ships too. Hopefully Paradox will fix the naval combat in the next patch or something.
skkrrt: Thats for sure!
slugo: No way, the brits stack up fleets several times my fleets size, and without a leader as well, and still gets close to 100% efficiency. I always get under 30%. My Admiral is actually quite good too!
AFAIK there are no stacking penalties in Victoria actually.
PanzerLeader: It surely is, 32 BB's have to work hard to defeat a fleet of less then twice its size of wooden ships, and it would even lose alot of ships too. Hopefully Paradox will fix the naval combat in the next patch or something.
skkrrt: Thats for sure!
slugo: No way, the brits stack up fleets several times my fleets size, and without a leader as well, and still gets close to 100% efficiency. I always get under 30%. My Admiral is actually quite good too!
AFAIK there are no stacking penalties in Victoria actually.
I've been reading this for a few days now and I must say it is simply brilliant! One of the best AAR's I have read! Say I was wondering, I know you wasn't going to orignally but will you take some enemy provinces in Africa and expand glorious German rule? That would be cool.
Heck, the monitor or merrimack alone could defeat it!
I'm very disappointed in the naval combat. This was going to be one of my most antisappated aspects of the game. Maybe a patch where iron ships get a HUGE defense and attack bonus against wooden ships?
TBB
Let us not weep that such AARs have died, but let us thank god that such AARs have lived.
Originally posted by TBB
Let us not weep that such AARs have died, but let us thank god that such AARs have lived.
WOw deep man
Ksim3000: Africa would end up being more of a liability than anything else. I dont want to use large amounts of troops down there to keep my provinces safe, my navy will have a hard time shipping in troops there too. Plus it wouldnt really boost my economy by much at all.
TBB: The naval combat disappointed me too
Im hoping that they'll fix it, maybe by making the difference in their stats bigger between each generation of ships.
And wow, that really was deepo
Ill try to write an update tomorrow, its just that the whole naval combat thing kinda ruined my fun, as I was counting on my navy to kick some british butt and then land more troops, but we'll see how it goes.
TBB: The naval combat disappointed me too
Im hoping that they'll fix it, maybe by making the difference in their stats bigger between each generation of ships.
And wow, that really was deep
o Ill try to write an update tomorrow, its just that the whole naval combat thing kinda ruined my fun, as I was counting on my navy to kick some british butt and then land more troops, but we'll see how it goes.
Originally posted by Seidita
Wow deep man
AND
An altered qoute by my favorite general, Patton. And YEAH this AAR is THAT good so, I bow before the AAR writing genius that is Dark_Teuton
TBB
Request: Maybe a USA or Confedarate AAR?
There should be a stacking limit. Played today my first victoria game as GB. I stacked all my 150 ships together and sank the whole frensh fleet without getting even a scratch on my ships. I beat germanys army of 400 divs with 3 million own soldiers, stacked together in one army. They killed the enemys so fast that they were not able to resist. Germany always tends to send troops to reinforce an ongoing battle. So I could kill 2 million german troops in two attacks without a single div lost. Kind of an exploit in my oppinion.
Chapter 15:
1896: Throughout November some fighting took place in England, but nothing major. The British ships were blocking the port the German fleet was docked in, so it couldn’t break out without defeating the British fleet first. Without more reinforcements brought in to England, the whole invasion could be defeated. The British had about the same amount of troops as we did over there, but they could recruit more, and had the advantage of being able to dig in.
In December we managed to trap some 270,000 British troops in Norwich, by taking the surrounding provinces, but it might prove to be difficult to defeat those troops, due to the British having enough troops to break the German lines and rescue them.
1897: In January the British tried to break the encirclement by attacking Lincoln, the northernmost province bordering Norwich. But thanks to a valiant effort by the German defenders, and the bringing in of reinforcements, the British had to withdraw on the 20th of February, after having suffered massive casualties.
New attacks on the province were launched in March as well, but the German defenders held the lines. Though this was costly for the German troops, losing several divisions, fortunately the British lost far more than we did.
Even as April came around the British kept on attacking, but by now they had taken so severe losses due to their attacks that they were risking a collapse of the entire front.
On the 21st of April research was completed on Economic Responsibility, and work was started on Bioligism.
On the 30th our naval engineers were done designing a new ship, the Dreadnought. We immediately started stockpiling resources to build a lot of these ships.
On the 9th of May 3 armies, totalling about 750,000 men attacked the 200,000 British left in Norwich. By the 15th the British lines had been shattered, and anyone left alive surrendered to the German troops. By now Britain only had 92 divisions left, putting them in an extremely dangerous position. If more encirclements of British troops could be completed, the war might be won by the German army.
In June we attacked Nottingham and its 120,000 British defenders with 2 armies, and due to our massive numerical superiority victory was achieved within a few weeks. In July we attacked Bedford, hoping to eventually be able to encircle the 150,000 British troops in Leicester.
In August, both Oxford and Birmingham were attacked. With these two provinces under German command, the British in Leicester would be trapped.
On the 12th of August we funded the construction of a new canal in Panama, called the Panama Canal. This boosted our prestige by a significant amount (+200).
Meanwhile, on the 15th we won the battle for Birmingham, and the battle for Oxford had been won as well by this time. The British troops in Leicester now faced certain destruction.
By the 1st of October Birmingham still wasn’t fully under German control due to constant British attacks upon the German positions there.
On the 19th Birmingham finally was brought under German control, and two armies, 1st and 4th marched towards Leicester on the same day.
On the 1st of November they engaged the British forces in Leicester, and on the 14th of December, after being forced to bring in another army, the 6th army, the British forces were forced to surrender.
By the 23rd the province was under German control, and plans were laid to encircle London, and take it.
1898: On the 3rd of January 3 German armies attack Bristol, attempting to seal off the south of England from the north. Victory was achieved on the 13th, and the 350,000 British troops left to defend London and the rest of the south of England were now in danger of being destroyed.
The British didn’t much like this, and throughout the rest of January and the whole of February they launched constant attacks in Bristol.
On the 16th of March the German forces finally managed to take full control of Bristol, and 2nd and 1st Army began marching further south, to destroy the British troops there, and take London.
On the 21st of April research was completed on Bioligism, and work was started on The Historical Theory.
By the 10th of May only 5 provinces in the south of England remained in British hands, and the offensive to finish off the British troops there was just about to begin.
The south of England is encircled, and about to be taken
On the 18th 3 German armies attacked Reading, garrisoned by some 130,000 British troops. By the 22nd the German forces had won, and the British were routed.
On the 10th of June two German armies attacked London and its 100,000 defenders, and by the 24th the British defenders had been destroyed. Now only a few British troops remained in the south, numbering around 50,000.
On the 9th of July the British offered peace, giving some colonies. We declined, as we were only interested in the British Isles, and not some worthless pieces of land far away from Europe.
By August all of the British troops left in the south of England had been destroyed, and all the provinces there were under German control.
On the 1st of September 4 German armies were ordered to march to Chester and engage the British defenders there. If that province could be taken, around 500,000 British troops in the Wales area would be trapped, almost half of the British army.
On the 15th the battle for Chester was won. But the British tried to break the German lines in Nottingham to break the encirclement, but two German armies were quickly dispatched to help the 75,000 German troops in Nottingham. On the 3rd of October the battle for Nottingham was won, but 6 German divisions had been lost holding the lines until the reinforcements arrived.
On the same day 3 German armies were ordered to attack Shrewsbury, garrisoned by some 178,000 British troops.
The battle started on the 10th, but by now another 170,000 British troops had joined the defenders. But the German forces still had a 2 to 1 advantage in numbers. And on the 24th the last British troops in Shrewsbury retreated, after having taken some massive casualties.
By the 17th of November all the provinces in the Wales area were under German control except one, Montgomery, being held by 340,000 British troops, about half their remaining army. About 1.2 million German troops surrounded the British forces in Montgomery, and they would likely be attacked and destroyed sometime in December.
The German forces were ordered to march towards the British lines on the 27th, and on the 1st of December they reached the lines and engaged the British troops.
By the 22nd all of the British forces had either been destroyed or captured. The British now had 32 divisions left, facing many times that in England.
Victory now seemed to be guaranteed, and soon the British would be forced to accept a peace in which we would demand large amounts of territory in the south of England.
1899: On the 1st of January German forces took full control of Montgomery, and now only the northern English provinces and Scotland remained in British hands. But with so small forces defending these areas, they would soon fall.
The British situation by January
On the 11th we attacked Liverpool, hoping to break the English lines and encircle their last troops on the front. By the 18th the battle was won, and one German army stayed behind to hold the province while the other 3 marched further north.
By the 29th Liverpool was under German control, and the German forces were just days away from Carlisle.
By the 3rd of February all of the nations that had joined the war on British side had signed with peaces with us.
On the 8th the German forces reached Carlisle and engaged the 70,000 British defenders there. The battle was won three days later and two of the armies in Carlisle marched on to Newcastle, the last province needed to complete the encirclement.
Newcastle was reached on the 25th, and after two days of fighting the British troops there were forced to withdraw from the province. By now almost half of the troops that we were hoping on encircling had managed to flee to the north, but 100,000 British troops still remained in the pocket.
By the 3rd of April the pocket had been closed, and the British division count was down to 12.
By the 13th the rest of the British divisions in Scotland were trapped in Edinburgh.
On the 26th the British troops in Edinburgh were attacked by 4th Army, and they were destroyed by the 10th of May.
The British now had 4 divisions left, but where those were we did not know, as they weren’t in Scotland or England at least.
The British also were having trouble with Ireland now, having already lost 4 provinces to rebels.
On the 14th of June the last of the British provinces in Scotland was brought under German control, and we now held all of England, Wales and Scotland.
All of England, Wales and Scotland is finally under German control
By July over half of Ireland was in the hands of Rebels, and more were being taken control of by the rebels.
On the 16th we offered the British peace for all of the provinces under our control except for London. They refused.
Throughout the rest of July, August and September the British kept offering peace for quite a few colonies. But we refused all of their offers.
By the 7th of October Cork was the only province in Ireland still under British control, but soon it too would fall into the hands of the rebels.
On the 11th of October Transvaal declared war upon the UK, and all of the British’s allies joined in on the British side. However, due to the British being so weak because of their war with us, Canada was the only likely threat to Transvaal, and they weren’t able to ship more than 3 divisions at most around the world.
On the 16th Oranje joined the war on Transvaal’s side.
On the 14th of November all of Ireland was in the hands of the rebels. German high command decided to try and keep the war going some more to give the Irish time to form their own nation.
1900: By January 1st, Oranje had almost taken a province from the British in South Africa.
On the 17th of January we bought the technologies Analytic Philosophy, Nationalism and Imperialism, Revolution and Counterrevolution and State and Government from the Swiss for 4 naval techs and 165,000£ (Note: He he, I doubt the Swiss will be able to use those techs!).
By the 8th of February Oranje had taken control of Richmond, a former British province in South Africa.
On the 8th of March the British offered peace giving up large amounts of colonial land, but we declined. We didn’t want to make peace until the Irish had declared their independence, to prevent the British managing to retake Ireland before this. Plus we still only wanted their home provinces and not colonial possessions.
On the 29th of March Oranje took control of Basutoland down in South Africa, and they were also working on taking full control of Fraserburg as well.
On the 21st of April research was done on Experimental Psychology, and work was started on NCO Training.
On the 11th of May the British accepted peace with Oranje ceding Fraserburg, Richmond and Basutoland to them!
Oranje's provinces after the peace
On the 3rd of July 80 new Dreadnaughts were ordered, they would be done on the 28th of March 1902.
On the 1st of September the Irish had yet to declare their independence from the British, and German high command did not want to wait any longer. So on the 1st we offered the British peace demanding large amounts of the southern English provinces. The British declined the deal however.
We continued to offer peace throughout September and October, when the British finally took our deal on the 22nd of October, by now it was a worse deal however, taking all of the provinces we had captured except 8.
The provinces taken in the peace deal
The situation in Europe after the peace has been concluded
On the same day we declared war on Jodhpur, one of the UK’s allies. The UK joined the war on their side (Note: Yes, I know, this is somewhat of an exploit, but I want more land! ).
German forces in Britain moved into the provinces that still were owned by the British.
By the 7th of December the British provinces were once again under German control, and peace was offered demanding all of them. The British wisely accepted, and they now only had London left, besides their Irish possessions in Europe.
On the 8th we offered Jodhpur a white peace, which they accepted. Germany was not at peace once again.
As a result of this war we had gained over 40 million extra citizens, and the German empire now had over 330 million citizens, only 70 million behind the Chinese 400 million. We also took 41 factories from the British, and we now had 161 factories, the most any nation had in the world. We now also had 231 provinces, the most in the world as well.
This chapter ended on the 1st of January 1901.
The situation in Europe at the end of the chapter
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Notes: Well, most of Europe is now in German hands
Maybe Ill try to whup some Austrian butt, but thats a big maybe.
TBB: Thanks, I dont think I will be writing a new AAR real soon atleast, but maybe some time later.
Jack: If there is to be a stacking limit they are gonna have to reduce the amount of divisions being used right now. But a stacking limit might be a good idea.
1896: Throughout November some fighting took place in England, but nothing major. The British ships were blocking the port the German fleet was docked in, so it couldn’t break out without defeating the British fleet first. Without more reinforcements brought in to England, the whole invasion could be defeated. The British had about the same amount of troops as we did over there, but they could recruit more, and had the advantage of being able to dig in.
In December we managed to trap some 270,000 British troops in Norwich, by taking the surrounding provinces, but it might prove to be difficult to defeat those troops, due to the British having enough troops to break the German lines and rescue them.
1897: In January the British tried to break the encirclement by attacking Lincoln, the northernmost province bordering Norwich. But thanks to a valiant effort by the German defenders, and the bringing in of reinforcements, the British had to withdraw on the 20th of February, after having suffered massive casualties.
New attacks on the province were launched in March as well, but the German defenders held the lines. Though this was costly for the German troops, losing several divisions, fortunately the British lost far more than we did.
Even as April came around the British kept on attacking, but by now they had taken so severe losses due to their attacks that they were risking a collapse of the entire front.
On the 21st of April research was completed on Economic Responsibility, and work was started on Bioligism.
On the 30th our naval engineers were done designing a new ship, the Dreadnought. We immediately started stockpiling resources to build a lot of these ships.
On the 9th of May 3 armies, totalling about 750,000 men attacked the 200,000 British left in Norwich. By the 15th the British lines had been shattered, and anyone left alive surrendered to the German troops. By now Britain only had 92 divisions left, putting them in an extremely dangerous position. If more encirclements of British troops could be completed, the war might be won by the German army.
In June we attacked Nottingham and its 120,000 British defenders with 2 armies, and due to our massive numerical superiority victory was achieved within a few weeks. In July we attacked Bedford, hoping to eventually be able to encircle the 150,000 British troops in Leicester.
In August, both Oxford and Birmingham were attacked. With these two provinces under German command, the British in Leicester would be trapped.
On the 12th of August we funded the construction of a new canal in Panama, called the Panama Canal. This boosted our prestige by a significant amount (+200).
Meanwhile, on the 15th we won the battle for Birmingham, and the battle for Oxford had been won as well by this time. The British troops in Leicester now faced certain destruction.
By the 1st of October Birmingham still wasn’t fully under German control due to constant British attacks upon the German positions there.
On the 19th Birmingham finally was brought under German control, and two armies, 1st and 4th marched towards Leicester on the same day.
On the 1st of November they engaged the British forces in Leicester, and on the 14th of December, after being forced to bring in another army, the 6th army, the British forces were forced to surrender.
By the 23rd the province was under German control, and plans were laid to encircle London, and take it.
1898: On the 3rd of January 3 German armies attack Bristol, attempting to seal off the south of England from the north. Victory was achieved on the 13th, and the 350,000 British troops left to defend London and the rest of the south of England were now in danger of being destroyed.
The British didn’t much like this, and throughout the rest of January and the whole of February they launched constant attacks in Bristol.
On the 16th of March the German forces finally managed to take full control of Bristol, and 2nd and 1st Army began marching further south, to destroy the British troops there, and take London.
On the 21st of April research was completed on Bioligism, and work was started on The Historical Theory.
By the 10th of May only 5 provinces in the south of England remained in British hands, and the offensive to finish off the British troops there was just about to begin.
The south of England is encircled, and about to be taken
On the 18th 3 German armies attacked Reading, garrisoned by some 130,000 British troops. By the 22nd the German forces had won, and the British were routed.
On the 10th of June two German armies attacked London and its 100,000 defenders, and by the 24th the British defenders had been destroyed. Now only a few British troops remained in the south, numbering around 50,000.
On the 9th of July the British offered peace, giving some colonies. We declined, as we were only interested in the British Isles, and not some worthless pieces of land far away from Europe.
By August all of the British troops left in the south of England had been destroyed, and all the provinces there were under German control.
On the 1st of September 4 German armies were ordered to march to Chester and engage the British defenders there. If that province could be taken, around 500,000 British troops in the Wales area would be trapped, almost half of the British army.
On the 15th the battle for Chester was won. But the British tried to break the German lines in Nottingham to break the encirclement, but two German armies were quickly dispatched to help the 75,000 German troops in Nottingham. On the 3rd of October the battle for Nottingham was won, but 6 German divisions had been lost holding the lines until the reinforcements arrived.
On the same day 3 German armies were ordered to attack Shrewsbury, garrisoned by some 178,000 British troops.
The battle started on the 10th, but by now another 170,000 British troops had joined the defenders. But the German forces still had a 2 to 1 advantage in numbers. And on the 24th the last British troops in Shrewsbury retreated, after having taken some massive casualties.
By the 17th of November all the provinces in the Wales area were under German control except one, Montgomery, being held by 340,000 British troops, about half their remaining army. About 1.2 million German troops surrounded the British forces in Montgomery, and they would likely be attacked and destroyed sometime in December.
The German forces were ordered to march towards the British lines on the 27th, and on the 1st of December they reached the lines and engaged the British troops.
By the 22nd all of the British forces had either been destroyed or captured. The British now had 32 divisions left, facing many times that in England.
Victory now seemed to be guaranteed, and soon the British would be forced to accept a peace in which we would demand large amounts of territory in the south of England.
1899: On the 1st of January German forces took full control of Montgomery, and now only the northern English provinces and Scotland remained in British hands. But with so small forces defending these areas, they would soon fall.
The British situation by January
On the 11th we attacked Liverpool, hoping to break the English lines and encircle their last troops on the front. By the 18th the battle was won, and one German army stayed behind to hold the province while the other 3 marched further north.
By the 29th Liverpool was under German control, and the German forces were just days away from Carlisle.
By the 3rd of February all of the nations that had joined the war on British side had signed with peaces with us.
On the 8th the German forces reached Carlisle and engaged the 70,000 British defenders there. The battle was won three days later and two of the armies in Carlisle marched on to Newcastle, the last province needed to complete the encirclement.
Newcastle was reached on the 25th, and after two days of fighting the British troops there were forced to withdraw from the province. By now almost half of the troops that we were hoping on encircling had managed to flee to the north, but 100,000 British troops still remained in the pocket.
By the 3rd of April the pocket had been closed, and the British division count was down to 12.
By the 13th the rest of the British divisions in Scotland were trapped in Edinburgh.
On the 26th the British troops in Edinburgh were attacked by 4th Army, and they were destroyed by the 10th of May.
The British now had 4 divisions left, but where those were we did not know, as they weren’t in Scotland or England at least.
The British also were having trouble with Ireland now, having already lost 4 provinces to rebels.
On the 14th of June the last of the British provinces in Scotland was brought under German control, and we now held all of England, Wales and Scotland.
All of England, Wales and Scotland is finally under German control
By July over half of Ireland was in the hands of Rebels, and more were being taken control of by the rebels.
On the 16th we offered the British peace for all of the provinces under our control except for London. They refused.
Throughout the rest of July, August and September the British kept offering peace for quite a few colonies. But we refused all of their offers.
By the 7th of October Cork was the only province in Ireland still under British control, but soon it too would fall into the hands of the rebels.
On the 11th of October Transvaal declared war upon the UK, and all of the British’s allies joined in on the British side. However, due to the British being so weak because of their war with us, Canada was the only likely threat to Transvaal, and they weren’t able to ship more than 3 divisions at most around the world.
On the 16th Oranje joined the war on Transvaal’s side.
On the 14th of November all of Ireland was in the hands of the rebels. German high command decided to try and keep the war going some more to give the Irish time to form their own nation.
1900: By January 1st, Oranje had almost taken a province from the British in South Africa.
On the 17th of January we bought the technologies Analytic Philosophy, Nationalism and Imperialism, Revolution and Counterrevolution and State and Government from the Swiss for 4 naval techs and 165,000£ (Note: He he, I doubt the Swiss will be able to use those techs!).
By the 8th of February Oranje had taken control of Richmond, a former British province in South Africa.
On the 8th of March the British offered peace giving up large amounts of colonial land, but we declined. We didn’t want to make peace until the Irish had declared their independence, to prevent the British managing to retake Ireland before this. Plus we still only wanted their home provinces and not colonial possessions.
On the 29th of March Oranje took control of Basutoland down in South Africa, and they were also working on taking full control of Fraserburg as well.
On the 21st of April research was done on Experimental Psychology, and work was started on NCO Training.
On the 11th of May the British accepted peace with Oranje ceding Fraserburg, Richmond and Basutoland to them!
Oranje's provinces after the peace
On the 3rd of July 80 new Dreadnaughts were ordered, they would be done on the 28th of March 1902.
On the 1st of September the Irish had yet to declare their independence from the British, and German high command did not want to wait any longer. So on the 1st we offered the British peace demanding large amounts of the southern English provinces. The British declined the deal however.
We continued to offer peace throughout September and October, when the British finally took our deal on the 22nd of October, by now it was a worse deal however, taking all of the provinces we had captured except 8.
The provinces taken in the peace deal
The situation in Europe after the peace has been concluded
On the same day we declared war on Jodhpur, one of the UK’s allies. The UK joined the war on their side (Note: Yes, I know, this is somewhat of an exploit, but I want more land!
). German forces in Britain moved into the provinces that still were owned by the British.
By the 7th of December the British provinces were once again under German control, and peace was offered demanding all of them. The British wisely accepted, and they now only had London left, besides their Irish possessions in Europe.
On the 8th we offered Jodhpur a white peace, which they accepted. Germany was not at peace once again.
As a result of this war we had gained over 40 million extra citizens, and the German empire now had over 330 million citizens, only 70 million behind the Chinese 400 million. We also took 41 factories from the British, and we now had 161 factories, the most any nation had in the world. We now also had 231 provinces, the most in the world as well.
This chapter ended on the 1st of January 1901.
The situation in Europe at the end of the chapter
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Notes: Well, most of Europe is now in German hands
Maybe Ill try to whup some Austrian butt, but thats a big maybe.
TBB: Thanks, I dont think I will be writing a new AAR real soon atleast, but maybe some time later.
Jack: If there is to be a stacking limit they are gonna have to reduce the amount of divisions being used right now. But a stacking limit might be a good idea.
Wow.
This is quickly becoming my favorite Vic AAR. You are doing amazingly well, even against Great Britain. It's too bad Ireland hasn't declared independence yet though, GB will probably liberate the isle before they can
But if they do gain independence you should offer them an alliance
This is quickly becoming my favorite Vic AAR. You are doing amazingly well, even against Great Britain. It's too bad Ireland hasn't declared independence yet though, GB will probably liberate the isle before they can
But if they do gain independence you should offer them an alliance
Could be cool to see how a German vs Austria war would turn out..
Nice AAR
/DK_FROGGY
Nice AAR
/DK_FROGGY
Great AAR and you are doing realy well. I hope I can get tomorrow my hands on the game in order to try similar things (o.k. I will be beaten, but I will try)!
