Conquering Mamlukes in time

[AvengedK1ng]

Hey guys, I was just wondering with the recent WS changes but also increased AI forts, how easy it is to conquer the Mamlukes in time as the Ottomans. 1517 would be the ideal date even if Suleiman's first challenge is the vizier sent to govern Egypt creating a neo-Mamluk state to try and break free
This is state after first war

besides using the guarantee on Cyprus as a way to shorten 100% peace deals to 0% 5 year truces, do people have any tips
I remember one thread that was able to achieve it with above Cyprus method but they used something with the timeline iirc whereas I launched 1444 as per usual

edit: this is how eu4 presents the conquest, as happening from the 1st of Jan 1517 not the 22nd Wiki gives

mamlukes survive in yemen too until 1538 which is kinda accurate

 

[TheMeInTeam]

You have to fight more separate wars than was historical, but if you get started relatively early in the game and reset at least 1 truce down to 5 years I can't imagine it taking that long. Four 100% peace deals should have you in the ballpark already, which is 60 years of truce with no shortening tricks or breaks.

Note that EU 4's rules intentionally make several historical conquests completely impossible.

 

[bokorthedust]

I don't know if you did it already (based on the screenshot maybe you did), but for the first war against them I open with the Syrian reconquest. You can get a core you can release them from from AQ, and then with the ws. changes and the reconquest modifier, you can get the cores back and maybe get the Jerusalem state to unlock your next batch of claims in the mission tree for Egypt. With the Cyprus truce reset(s) you have more than enough time to complete the conquest of Egypt until the historical date, maybe even beat it, I seem to remember a game where I already had the Delta in 1490.

 

[necro84]

besides using the guarantee on Cyprus as a way to shorten 100% peace deals to 0% 5 year truces, do people have any tips

guarantee Yemen and Ethiopia so Mamluks can't expand south. Is they unite Hejaz and Medina use transfer vassal age ability.
And of course reconquest of Syria as mentioned before.

You can try becoming Shia and using monuments in Mecca and Malta for cheaper warscore against other religion or Alhambra for admin efficiency but I don't think you will upgrade them over lvl 1 in time.

 

[AvengedK1ng]

I don't know if you did it already (based on the screenshot maybe you did), but for the first war against them I open with the Syrian reconquest. You can get a core you can release them from from AQ, and then with the ws. changes and the reconquest modifier, you can get the cores back and maybe get the Jerusalem state to unlock your next batch of claims in the mission tree for Egypt. With the Cyprus truce reset(s) you have more than enough time to complete the conquest of Egypt until the historical date, maybe even beat it, I seem to remember a game where I already had the Delta in 1490.

Yeah I was able to get Rakka off AQ kinda early, but I was tied in war with Georgia and Epirus (+Pope +Ragusa) so couldn't immediately release
What direction would you reccomend annexing mamlukes in, cyrencia and Libya i think I'll go next to prevent tunis taking them

guarantee Yemen and Ethiopia so Mamluks can't expand south. Is they unite Hejaz and Medina use transfer vassal age ability.
And of course reconquest of Syria as mentioned before.

You can try becoming Shia and using monuments in Mecca and Malta for cheaper warscore against other religion or Alhambra for admin efficiency but I don't think you will upgrade them over lvl 1 in time.

Theyve allied Yemen so they cant expand there, Yemen also allied Adal so trying to co belig and conquer them will be a pain
Ethiopia has expanded into medhri bahri so is deciptively strong, last timurids game they beat a mamlukes which had invaded with holy war cb so we'll see
Medina they conquered a province off and ended guarantee so mamlukes blocked their own mission tree, so I'm able to vassalise Medina, my plan is if i full annex mamlukes then I'll get Hejaz as a vassal to save ws. I could've tone timeline change to give cores on mecca and medina but then you get troops stuck that far away

You have to fight more separate wars than was historical, but if you get started relatively early in the game and reset at least 1 truce down to 5 years I can't imagine it taking that long. Four 100% peace deals should have you in the ballpark already, which is 60 years of truce with no shortening tricks or breaks.

Note that EU 4's rules intentionally make several historical conquests completely impossible.

Yeah for Ottos theres not just Egypt which has to be rigged to work, but also Hayreddin barbarossa, crimea taking GH provinces, and ottoman ship captains seizing mamluke positions in yemen and hejaz, hopefully eu5 gives a rework, like how IR had the Alexander's successors cb or the imperial conquest cb Rome got vs cartage and others got late game where occupying a province for long enough flipped it for minor ae and war exhaustion