Tonioz said:
Actually,I was involed in a small war aganist the OE to start with. I did warn everyone his power potential, but none listened, so I tried alone and failed. As a result he is much more powerful now.
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Actually,I was involed in a small war aganist the OE to start with. I did warn everyone his power potential, but none listened, so I tried alone and failed. As a result he is much more powerful now.
It is interesting that it is one of the nations most far away that is so afraid of me. Can it be that you have misunderstood something PJL?
Well, that war cost me some money. Perhaps stupidly I claimed DotF. I could have waited with that for some time to see how the war continued. Although you would then have won the battle in Bombay. But on the other hand it was quite an insignificant battle since I could easily have taken the province back.
BTW, what were you doing with that big fleet of yours? Did it carry an army? You never landed any army in the Med area after the first attack on Fez.
Well, that war cost me some money. Perhaps stupidly I claimed DotF. I could have waited with that for some time to see how the war continued. Although you would then have won the battle in Bombay. But on the other hand it was quite an insignificant battle since I could easily have taken the province back.
BTW, what were you doing with that big fleet of yours? Did it carry an army? You never landed any army in the Med area after the first attack on Fez.
Daniel A said:Tell me you are kiddingBut some kind of recompensation is in order, if you lost anything.
Well it's not going to happen, so the follownig would be nice
1. I get Ulster and Meath provinces
2. Connaught and Leinster converted to Reformed
3. My inflation reduced by 2%
4. My treasury reduced by 2000
5. Land tech moved up to L15
5. Fox upgraded to a full province
6. 5 extra warships in Tierra Del Fuego.
7. Monopoly restored in Anglia.
8. All rebel provinces back to me, and all rebel armies wiped out.
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Daniel A said:
Well I really wanted to destroy your fleet more than anything else, it was a threat, but even though I won the battle, I was losnig more ships than you were. So I couldn't afford another battle like that, and settled for a WP.
Tonioz said:
before i reached 14 or 15 as naval Sweden in Reign of Empires with Bocaj at England, Drake in Portugal, newbie at Spain. 146% TE at those mountain and probably around 480 ducats from trade.
those bunch of suckers gonna bang me now
Hehe. They sure should!
BTW, the trading of SPA in our game is surprisingly insignificant. 181d per year only. And a very small army he has as well. Well, his south border is safe anyhow.
PJL said:
But how can my fleet be a threat towards you?
I have built it so grand because I felt threatened by your ship building program.Is this a classical case of an armament race where both are losers?
Daniel A said:Eh... well then they can burn in my backyard
Then I won't be your friend
I don't wana go to the Sultan's parties when Van Engel is burning in the backyard! 
Tonioz said:Enigma, he can separately stabhit you, and best you get from Bourboans is money after that
I know he can, but I could alliance hit him (theoretically) if I had more WS. Now like I said, I doubt I'll be able to get much more.
Daniel A said:But how can my fleet be a threat towards you?
Is this a classical case of an armament race where both are losers?
I have built it so grand because I felt threatened by your ship building program. You started it first.
Here's the proof:
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bluelotus said:So if I start building galleys like an idiot both of you will dow me?
Well I certainly won't, but I'm not so sure what the Ottomans will do...
bluelotus said:So if I start building galleys like an idiot both of you will dow me?
now i understand why you live relaxed without problems
PJL said:I have built it so grand because I felt threatened by your ship building program. You started it first.
Here's the proof:
Eh, this graph clearly shows I started increasing my fleet in the early 16th century (after SPA aggression). Then for 40 years I never used it but then one clearly sees your ship building program racing. After that I reacted to your building by yet again building some 1-200 ships more (since I knew your admirals are superior to mine). And wise I was since I was then attacked by you, not you by me.
Daniel A said:
Whatever your reasons for increasnig your fleet, it made me feel that I should start buildnig mine. You never know what's going to happen in these situations.
I'm happy with doing all of them except 1,2,5,7. Tell why you should get those and I may change my mind.PJL said:
Tonio, you worry too much about external affairs.
The fact that Russia now has Greek culture is because of events which later might happen. I seriously doubt me and Daniel are going to stay friendly for the rest of the game, since that would be plain boring.
I love it!
I much prefer to be enemy to those not bordering me. It is much better for the well-being of your nation.
I much prefer to be enemy to those not bordering me. It is much better for the well-being of your nation.
It'd be plain boring if me and Tonio remained enemies for the rest of the game too
And damnit, I dropped a place in the trade-income ranking. I blame two political crises. Where PJL get exceptional years, I get political crises. And a conquistador to explorer base-tax 1 Candian provinces...
But at least I have better eco-techs than England
(and ps: I'm still the smallest nation )
And damnit, I dropped a place in the trade-income ranking. I blame two political crises. Where PJL get exceptional years, I get political crises. And a conquistador to explorer base-tax 1 Candian provinces...
But at least I have better eco-techs than England
(and ps: I'm still the smallest nation
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Van Engel said:I'm happy with doing all of them except 1,2,5,7. Tell why you should get those and I may change my mind.
Tonio, you worry too much about external affairs.
Well I gues I can do 1 and 2 soon enough anyway, so that can be left out. However 5a reflects tech investment I would have done if I hadn't left it at full spending and 5b reflects colonial investment I would have done had I spent some of that money. And 7 is just what I would have done with my merchants.
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