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Mjulli in Austria again ? weeee ;)
 

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? I thought last time we still had 3 people spared who could go to any nation?


Not that I mind, per se, but it's a bit suspicious when the dropped nation could be so important to both GM's :rofl:
 

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@Engel: I told ya that I can play AUT, so I don´t understand why u said that u got no1 ?!?! :(
If no players more needed ok.
Wish all good luck and fun.

cya
 

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Hmm, well, I guess we get the following then:

-We start wednesday next week, the 6th of July.
-We play with 11 players at start, 12 when the Netherlands form (unless, perhaps, our NL wants to play Poland untill the Netherlands form)
-We play from 19-23 CET, unless PJL can positively not make that. If he can't, we move one of our 3 'reserves' so to speak to Denmark, and possibly move start-time half an hour earlier (so PJL, please respond)

Anyone not okay with this, say so now. If you do not, we will assume you show up, and not complain about setup etc.
 

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Hehe....Hi all. This sure is looking good as hell ;).
I´m Wonko here in the Forum (the guy playing the Netherlands). Ingame my name will be "Ampoliros" and you can easily find me in ICQ (where my name is Commander_Ebola, just to make things a little bit more complicated :p :wacko: :cool: ) :

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As I want to have the pure dutch experience I won´t be playing Poland until the Netherlands spawn. Instead I will meditate and wait for the most glorious of moments.... :D :D

Just give me notice once Holland has freed itself....and then I´m in the game.
 

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Here is my brand new ICQ number : 226-368-777 I lost the old one's number/password so i had to create a new. The few people who had my ICQ (looking at Daniel A, Engel) delete the old one and add this if you want.
 

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Huzzah!! We shall start Wednesday!! Anyhoo, if you would like to reach your friendly neighborhood French player, my ICQ is 278-069-645. I am known as Hawkeye...
 

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There's no way I can make it for 1900 CET, simply not possible at all. Like I said, 1915 at the earliest.
 

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Treaty of Madrid​

In a treaty for friendship of the Kingdoms of Spain and France, both nations signed a non-agression-pact till anno domino 1540.
 

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Allright, seeing as PJL cannot possibly make 1900 CET, and since others have expressed a desire for an earlier time:

Who of G.D., TraSh, Awakened and whoever I forgot wants Denmark?

And IF hosting allows, we might allow a second one of those in as Poland, but that depends on our host :)
 

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Just for anyone who might feel like quitting anywhere along the line, know what you sign up for.

Only quit:

-If you HAVE to, go ahead, but TRY to ensure we either get a sub arranged by you, or get time to arrange when. But when you must quit, it's ok.
-If you no longer feel like playing this single EU2 game. In general, make sure you have a new player for your nation, or just stay and (politely) adress what you think is wrong.
-If you quit EU2MP entirely. Still, make sure you have a new perm for your nation.
-ONLY quit in-session if you HAVE to, or if you get an irresistible urge to wreck your own nation. Losing a province should NOT be a good reason for it, though losing 20 provinces to a gangbang of half the world mght be valid. Still, attempt to ensure a smooth transition is possible.

Also, BE ON TIME. Waiting for 30 mins for people to show up sucks. If you say you'll be there at 19 CET (the time we'll assume for now) then try to be in the lounge at least at 1859. We want to play as much of 4 hours as possible.





Now, after the unpleasant messages, I present a possibly pleasant message: we might be able to play with 13 players for our host, so anyone who wants Poland (or Denmark which is still open) should post here. For either counts, first come first serve. If you see a post claiming Poland, don't post you want Poland cause it's wasted, and Denmark would be assigned to the first person requesting Poland.

Offcourse, if Awakened and Mulliman can work out between themselves that Awakened plays Austria and Mulliman plays Poland, I'm fine with that too provided it's posted here.

But I'm not going to arrange that for you.
 

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Daniel A said:
Are you a quitter per chance :eek: :D
Brwah!
The times i played Austria, that i can remember, there were either ones where the game fell apart because of indifference or disinterest of the players (BF2), or because the GM himself didnt want to continue the game (SfS, the original i think).
Other than that, i cant really say. Of course, i dont remember all the games i palyed in, but there are some where the game fell apart for obvious reasons and thus i wasnt able to end the campaign :).
The only games where ive been a quitter over the years of gaming have been Poland, Russia and Russia (what can i say, i hate the country :)) and two of the three cases, it has been because the time schedule has been so late so that i have forgotten about it and gone to sleep instead :).
 

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will we have random leaders ? personally i like them.

Will be vassal rules reviewed because of new information ?
 
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Tonioz said:
will we have random leaders ? personally i like them.

Will be vassal rules reviewed because of new information ?

Tonioz,

Does this vassal bug only occur in MP, or can one test it in SP as well?

(Asks Daniel who has 4 vassals in his Monday game..., that may be 3 too many ;) )

And if we have random leaders (which I believe makes the game more fun for the nations with few leaders) I ask them not to be exaggerated. It should still be something really extra to have a 555-general or whatever. I seem to play in games where random leaders with their sum of values being 13-14 points all too often. In some games the values can be even 15 or higher IIRC. I believe their max should be around 13-14 and their average around 10-11 with a spread according to the "normal curve/spread" or whatever the English expression may be.

Since a normal leader in EU MP has a sum of 8 (assuming you have gone to 9 or 10 in) offensive and quality an average of 11 means one more in each category and a max of 14 two more in each category. That is enough IMO. Maybe the max can be a little higher (very few leaders will get the max value if we apply "normal spread") but the average value should IMO really be lower than what is the case today in most games.
 
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I can play Poland, this is nation from which i came so it can't be left alone ;)
 
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I can play as Denmark
 

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Daniel A said:
Does this vassal bug only occur in MP, or can one test it in SP as well?

It doesn`t matter SP or MP, but since MPers should care a lots about this, and i didn`t wants mods would move those thread to usual forum :)

And if we have random leaders (which I believe makes the game more fun for the nations with few leaders) I ask them not to be exaggerated. It should still be something really extra to have a 555-general or whatever. I seem to play in games where random leaders with their sum of values being 13-14 points all too often. In some games the values can be even 15 or higher IIRC. I believe their max should be around 13-14 and their average around 10-11 with a spread according to the "normal curve/spread" or whatever the English expression may be.

Since a normal leader in EU MP has a sum of 8 (assuming you have gone to 9 or 10 in) offensive and quality an average of 11 means one more in each category and a max of 14 two more in each category. That is enough IMO. Maybe the max can be a little higher (very few leaders will get the max value if we apply "normal spread") but the average value should IMO really be lower than what is the case today in most games.

we can use MT points in generator as gap for all nations. If to set MT for each nation as 7, max sum would be 14.