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3 test from 1419 to 1430
As per map included.
All 3 tests have BUR getting a difficulut time by an alliance of DAU -SAV
since historical SAV was aligned with VEN early, I suggest the next beta tests to place SAV with VEN and TOS in alliance
The outcome should be that SAV will not interfere with BUR until at least 1431 when alliance breaks, then by that stage BUR would already be strong enough to cope or not get Dowed
note green is SAv, already own franche and have troops seiging flanders
other note, Hainault formed in all 3 games, map above has them in artois and holland
VEN claimed dalmatia (first i have seen since version 1.50 ) in 2 of the 3 games, must be the replacement leader
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I have the reverse for Burgundy too with Dauphiné/France almost killed.
And Venice often gain Dalmatia and Croatia in my tests (and before leader change was introduced). It depends how Hungary is involved against Hussites.
And Venice often gain Dalmatia and Croatia in my tests (and before leader change was introduced). It depends how Hungary is involved against Hussites.
Not a big deal but the "Day of Barricades" events should be above the "Assassination of Henri of Guise" per chronological order.
beta test 1
recommend the removal of SER in TUR Ai , its more pain than gain. based only by my tests.
any thoughts on changing the AI file for OE - 1451 Mehmet II AI to start in 1441. i will test these later. change wanted as its a fine line for OE to war both , BYZ and alliances as well as SER and alliances.
Also after 1444 I found that BYZ, KNI and SPR usually dow ATH . unsure if its good or bad. But KNI always hold the hellas province
recommend the removal of SER in TUR Ai , its more pain than gain. based only by my tests.
any thoughts on changing the AI file for OE - 1451 Mehmet II AI to start in 1441. i will test these later. change wanted as its a fine line for OE to war both , BYZ and alliances as well as SER and alliances.
Also after 1444 I found that BYZ, KNI and SPR usually dow ATH . unsure if its good or bad. But KNI always hold the hellas province
Sure.Garbon said:
Will be removed but it was your own proposal, wasn't it?Toio said:
Hellas in KNI hands? Just once in my tests but OE grabbed it just after in a war against KNI. I saw it in Morean hands too. EDIT: but more common is Albania as ally of OE Dowing Athens and this ends with annexation of Athens by OE around 1430.Toio said:
Anyway, I see too often barrack in Anatolia (Imperial College instituted) in 1454 (i.e. OE almost always too late in conquering Thrace or always at war with Byzantine allies in 1454 and capital can't change during war). Proposal for 1441 could change this but maybe 1441 is too soon.
ATH breaks OE vasselage in 1453, not before.
Even if order in combatlist is not important (not sure), I suggest this change in MehmetII AI file:
combat = { BUL ATH BYZ ATH SER TRE KNI KAR ALB CAN RAG DUL SPR }
since Athens survived three years after fall of Constantinople.
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YodaMaster said:
We can test. Frankly I don't really see a big problem with Constantinople routinely falling a decade earlier. Better than several decades later as it tended to happen in the 1.52 betas.
Since my laptop went down and I am not going to have a new one in short time, could anyone please test my proposals about Kongo alternative monarchs line and the sequence of events about the war between Ottoman Empire and Safvid Persia? Thanks...
YodaMaster said:Will be removed but it was your own proposal, wasn't it?
yes, sometimes being too honest has its drawbacks
If other modders find it better in their games, then its an option I can live with, if the decision is to retain SER in Ai file
KNI in hellas, yes, happens usually after the 1444 morea events against ATH. by this date the alliance is usually, BYZ, KNI and SPR
Morea causes the DOW
true , and I have mentioned it plenty of times in the past. I think a 1441 start for the AI might need to be tested.
yes historical as well as OE is always short of diplomats as it normally gets only 1 per year
not important , but you can amend as its the same
I really think you need to test SAV with TOS-VEN alliance and give me some results.
SAV are in NO alliance at the start of GC
test from beta 1
OE and HAB at war in 1528
FRA after a very poor start , only had verdee, berri and poitou as DAU and then recieved IIle in 145)s and then formed FRA. impressive after bad start
PFA is where HUN should be , (brown is PFA) initially warred with HUN after HUN received Ansbach
RUS formed ok,
OE I will assume should annex MAMS after war with HAB concludes
SPA, formed ok and took a healthy "normal" looking BUR
colonizing is good, POR supply troops via lisbon to their colonies
Italy all quiet, except MLO took SAV out of the game by about 1450 and still own it
OE and HAB at war in 1528
FRA after a very poor start , only had verdee, berri and poitou as DAU and then recieved IIle in 145)s and then formed FRA. impressive after bad start
PFA is where HUN should be , (brown is PFA) initially warred with HUN after HUN received Ansbach
RUS formed ok,
OE I will assume should annex MAMS after war with HAB concludes
SPA, formed ok and took a healthy "normal" looking BUR
colonizing is good, POR supply troops via lisbon to their colonies
Italy all quiet, except MLO took SAV out of the game by about 1450 and still own it
I will include them in beta for tests and submit them if you can't.Bordic said:
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As for now I cannot even test the sequence about the Lombard Wars, I can only follow discussions in the forum.YodaMaster said:
However those last Italian events are more suitable for the new map.
Last Italian events, which ones?Bordic said:However those last Italian events are more suitable for the new map.
posts 1210 and 1211 in Italy thread. And since you will be "surfing" the forum, you might have a look at my new proposal in NA thread too...YodaMaster said:
yes, I saw it but I will read it more carefully later.Bordic said:posts 1210 and 1211 in Italy thread. And since you will be "surfing" the forum, you might have a look at my new proposal in NA thread too...
Bordic said:As for now I cannot even test the sequence about the Lombard Wars, I can only follow discussions in the forum.
However those last Italian events are more suitable for the new map.
I will test are the event ID correct in that they are not already used?
Yes, they use first ID available.Toio said:
EDIT: Please N.B., I have added a removecore on Marche to post 1211.
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Post #1 updated. Beta 2 available
EDIT: there is a mistake in config.eu included in beta: aggressivity should be "weakling" and not "coward" and difficulty should be "hard" and not "easy"...
EDIT: there is a mistake in config.eu included in beta: aggressivity should be "weakling" and not "coward" and difficulty should be "hard" and not "easy"...
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