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During the last statements, your Prymas seemed unfocused, a bit hazy.

It is clear that his concern is keeping his flock and the nation strong, to safeguard all those currently under his care. And he does agree with his pope, all good catholic nations should join the crusade. And yet, he still has to distribute the monies from that pope and his own funds.

You get the impression he is 'getting his house in order' - leaving a legacy, trying to predict the pitfalls and dangers on the course PL is going to take. He is a burdened man, and while it only shows rarely, you get the idea that this is one of those few times.
 

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Although thou are not of my religion milord, I respect thee for thy dedication to thy faith. Thou art a great leader for tgy flock...
Blessing upon thee Father
 

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Originally posted by VultureGFF
Although thou are not of my religion milord, I respect thee for thy dedication to thy faith. Thou art a great leader for tgy flock...
Blessing upon thee Father

I am glad to see that the Orthodox barbarian is coming to his senses about religious matters, and also has polished his language a little.
 

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Not even the best education can replace the natural finesse, flair and eloquent speech that us nobles are born with and you cossack can only hope to attain through intense study and dedication.

Oh and, it is Prince Wisniowiecki to you.
 

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Ataman rises in front of nobles


Noble friends... Alliance issues have been bothering us for quite while now. I have another suggestion to make.
We have already agreed on trying to convince Hungary to enter our alliance. I also hope that King will make attempts to do the same with the Venetian traders. Now, I was thinking last night in front of the fireplace, with a glass of vodka in hand. Could it not be profitable for us if we also convinced Moldavia to enter our alliance. It is a small country and not very powerful, but they like us, border us and their lands would be an excellent buffer in between Turkish lands and the possessions of the Lubomirscy family. Also, since they are small and not powerful, they might be convinced sooner or later to become or vassals, or better still, part of our glorious nation. Tell me what you all think, nobles.
I greet you all.


Ataman sits down, the nobles are discussing fiercely
 

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And yet again, our Ataman has one of his bright moments... The Moldavians would be a nice addition to our alliance, even though they do not have the military power to support us effectively, they can still slow down the Turkish hordes.
 

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*pan Radziwill rises and starts to speak*

My fellow Nobles, Ataman and Leaguemaster. If the war with Turks seems to be your main worry at the moment, then i have yet another suggestion to make:
We are not the only enemies of Turks, and neither Venetians or Hungarians are as well. In the lands east and south from here lie 2 pagan stats called Mameluks and Persia who hate the Turks as much as we do. I'm not sure, for i don't care much about ways of the infidels, but think they have some religious disagreements and cannnot stand each other. Maybe it would be wise then to call them to our alliance as well, for making such a strong alliance that totally surrounds the turks will stop their expansion, no matter how weak the participants in this alliance are.
 

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Originally posted by hjarg
*pan Radziwill rises and starts to speak*

My fellow Nobles, Ataman and Leaguemaster. If the war with Turks seems to be your main worry at the moment, then i have yet another suggestion to make:
We are not the only enemies of Turks, and neither Venetians or Hungarians are as well. In the lands east and south from here lie 2 pagan stats called Mameluks and Persia who hate the Turks as much as we do. I'm not sure, for i don't care much about ways of the infidels, but think they have some religious disagreements and cannnot stand each other. Maybe it would be wise then to call them to our alliance as well, for making such a strong alliance that totally surrounds the turks will stop their expansion, no matter how weak the participants in this alliance are.

I agree with you Sir, you do seem to have moments of brightness. I suggest we call in Persia. They seems stronger then the Mameluks. I suggest an alliance with Moldavia, Hungary, Venice and Persia
 

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Originally posted by Rictus
I agree with our most esteemed cossak friend in reference to the Moldavian state, it makes a most excellant buffer state and a wise addition to the Commonwelath

[dibs on the land if we diblo-annex :D]


I am happy that some nobles support me. I hope this is the prove that Cossacks aren't dumb barbarians.


[You're just happy that you're land is protected :D]
 

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The alliance with the Persians, the Moldavians, the Hungarians and the Venetian traders seems like a good solid one to me, although i must note that it might cost us dearly to improve relationships with some of these countries, as they are not on best terms with us at the moment.
 
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Sorry for my lack of updates, I am just playing to the role that the Gilinski Family doesn't show up in the Diet sessions. First of all let me say that I fully support war with Russia. I think that the perfect time to invade them is right after they declare war with Kazan. Also, I support the war with Turkey. Also I support the keeping the Russians from A seaport.
 

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It gladdens me to see that the Polish-Lithaunian Commonwealth does not act rashly, but instead considers every possibility.

I feel compelled to mention that the Sultan does not hold great love for the people of the Golden Horde. Tough believers in name, they have let their barbarian ways prevailing on more than one occation. If expansion to the east stabilizes the balance of power with the Moscovite Dukedom, then how can such an action be unwise.

Yours truely. Erzic Demerzel, Ambassador to Bayezid II, Sultan of the Ottoman Empire.
 

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Dear ambassador, I am happy to hear that the Sultan holds no grudge at the moment. I intend to keep it that way. Yes the Horde are infidels and will be punished soon enough
 

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Letter to the King of Poland-Lithuania from Pope Innocent VIII

It is my desire that your kingdom come to the fullness of the true faith in christ. My understanding as i am learning more and more, is that much of your realm is controlled and influenced by the Orthodox church. This is not a good thing King and you should make every attempt to win souls for the true faith. Please report back to Rome your progress in converting Orthodox nobles. I have pressing matter with France at this time, but keep me informed as this issue is of great importance to me.

On a note, the last supply of tithes from Poland has not arrived yet, you must be certain you give enough escort to them as rebel activity has increased as a result of heathenous uprisings in Germany.

Yours in Christ, Innocent.
 

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Dear Pope Innocent,

I just wanted to note that i will make every effort possible to make our orthodox brethren see the true light of our religion, but i do not think that religion should be a reason for war within the Commonwealth. We are all brothers, after all...
 

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Ya, even the Defenders of Orthodoxy, the cossacks, agree... We musn't fight eachother on religious matters... As stated before, it is the Lord we honour.
 

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[I hope everything turns out allright. I can't click either raider or ataman, although I still don't get the diff between those two]

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Most Honored Nobles and his Execellency,

Please let it be known that leaders of Venezia harbor no friendship toward the Magyars of Hungary. Your relations with our nation will not suffer should you choose a cautious stance.

However, should the Diet aggressively seek to draw Hungary into your influence, and thereby pull them away from their sycophantic allegience (allegience in spirit, if not in law) to the Austrian Hapsburgs, this too would be regarded as a wise diplomacy.

Hungary, if properly directed, could be a useful ally to all of us that fight the expansion of the godless Turk. If they remain a puppet of the Austrians, your efforts could go for naught.

I have also been asked by my nobles to comment on rumors in the court of Polish actions to liberate the peasants currently under the rule of the Golden Horde. While such matters of state do not concern Venezia directly I was asked to inform you a similar rumor from our court, that such a move would be regarded as positive step to check possible Turkish or Russian aggression into the area.

I am thanking your for your generous hospitality as I continue to tour your magnificant lands.

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