Commintern font in For The Motherland

[rud]

This is from a thread on the subject when SF was released and this of course goes for the Axis and Allied fonts as well:

Don't know if someone posted it already, but the easiest way to fix this (which shouldn't mess with your checksum) is to edit your core.gfx (in /interface/ ).

	bitmapfont = {
		name = "comintern_country"
		fontname = "Kyril"
		color = 0xffffcb11
		effect = yes
	}

into

	bitmapfont = {
		name = "comintern_country"
		fontname = "kart_font"
		color = 0xffffcb11
		effect = yes
	}

kart_font can obviously be replaced by any other hoi3 font.

EDIT:
Also: effect controls all caps or not.

 

[Danmark Rising]

This is from a thread on the subject when SF was released and this of course goes for the Axis and Allied fonts as well:

Won't that change the code to the game making it non-compatible if you wanted to say play multi-player?

 

[Nitrousoxide]

Okay, you have a point. Bad example, I just used it as everyone always seems to use that one.

And I've got no problem with Americans using American English, nor any other place using it's own regional version of a language. Reginal dialects make life interesting, heck we have dozens of them in the British Isles alone. It's when that (US) version's treated as the original language that it gets a bit tiresome. But I'm really getting offtopic now, back to fonts.

When will we be getting the wingdings font pack for HOI3? :rofl:

Ya know, American English is spoken by over 2/3 of the world's native English speakers. If anything, American English is the "typical" English and yours is the deviation from the norm.

And it's not as if the English Brits speak is terribly similar to what was spoken 200, 300 or more years ago either when our languages started to diverge. Both dialects are very distinct from the English that they came from and you really can't claim that any one particular one is the "official" English.

 

[jju_57]

How often do you actually zoom that far out on the map for it to matter? I mean that big red blob in eastern Europe and Asis is pretty well known.

 

[Tankist/45]

May be we see Red October font in a patch then?

 

[JASGripen]

I think the Axis font is annoying. It looks like something out of an 18th century book. Not like something the Nazis would ever use. The Nazis were fans of fascist-modernist font styles which looked good on monumental architecture, but not those playful old fonts.

It's just as "wrong" but still to most people it adds flair, so you end up having to accept it...

I think something like Red October font would be nice: http://www.dafont.com/red-october.font



card for Enigma machine:

I think the Axis font is annoying. It looks like something out of an 18th century book. Not like something the Nazis would ever use. The Nazis were fans of fascist-modernist font styles which looked good on monumental architecture, but not those playful old fonts.

It's just as "wrong" but still to most people it adds flair, so you end up having to accept it...

3 January 1941 the "Gothic script" was banned in Germany. This is the common misconception about Nazi Germany, that they were kind of old fashioned conservatives. The truth is that the were very modern, and all to much like us - which we of course deny and rather cling to the Hollywood type of WWII Germans.

So fake Cyrillic for the commies is as wrong as Gothic for Germany.

 

[T.j. Arnold]

I personally think there should be more of a distinguishing factor between Allied and unaligned, they look far too similar.

My opinion for the Axis font, looks Germanic/modern:
http://www.1001freefonts.com/Bedizen.php

If anything, the Allied font should be what the Axis font is, as, at least in the early part of the war, the mindset was closer to the WWI era, which I guess is closer to that late 1800's stylized font.
But, I find this to be a better solution for the Allies, feels like good old 40's propaganda/movie poster font:
http://www.1001freefonts.com/Airstream.php

Again, this is all for aesthetics, it really isn't a huge deal (except for the native Russian speaker), and I doubt the devs will put much effort into this, considering the scale of the game and other things need to be worked on.

 

[comsubpac]

I personally think there should be more of a distinguishing factor between Allied and unaligned, they look far too similar.

My opinion for the Axis font, looks Germanic/modern:
http://www.1001freefonts.com/Bedizen.php

If anything, the Allied font should be what the Axis font is, as, at least in the early part of the war, the mindset was closer to the WWI era, which I guess is closer to that late 1800's stylized font.
But, I find this to be a better solution for the Allies, feels like good old 40's propaganda/movie poster font:
http://www.1001freefonts.com/Airstream.php

Again, this is all for aesthetics, it really isn't a huge deal (except for the native Russian speaker), and I doubt the devs will put much effort into this, considering the scale of the game and other things need to be worked on.

i don't get why the first looks "germanic". the second does indeed look like a font from a movie poster but would it fit for the map?

 

[Gre]

I personally think there should be more of a distinguishing factor between Allied and unaligned, they look far too similar.

....
But, I find this to be a better solution for the Allies, feels like good old 40's propaganda/movie poster font:
http://www.1001freefonts.com/Airstream.php

I like the airstream, but it almost looks too 1950's, Atomic Age to me. I would like something like the font that appears at the beginning of the "Why We Fight" films - that really shouts "America in World War II" to me. Our the big sans-serif all caps look of the "KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON" posters would be good.

 

[T.j. Arnold]

i don't get why the first looks "germanic". the second does indeed look like a font from a movie poster but would it fit for the map?

I'm guessing you've never been to Germany? The way the letters bend and curl is very much German. The Nazi's were modernists, so it makes sense (at least to me) to not have anything fancy.
If outdated fancy-script fits, why can't the Airstream?

I like the airstream, but it almost looks too 1950's, Atomic Age to me. I would like something like the font that appears at the beginning of the "Why We Fight" films - that really shouts "America in World War II" to me. Our the big sans-serif all caps look of the "KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON" posters would be good.

I agree, but I'm sure others will argue "Why should it be geared towards the U.S., they didn't enter the war until towards the end?", etc., etc.
even though without us the French would be speaking German

 

[comsubpac]

I'm guessing you've never been to Germany? The way the letters bend and curl is very much German.

i live in germany and we simply use antiqua like everyone else.

 

[T.j. Arnold]

Well, duh, the even use it in Japan, but that doesn't mean there can't be one geared towards a certain culture.

 

[comsubpac]

Well, duh, the even use it in Japan, but that doesn't mean there can't be one geared towards a certain culture.

but our letters don't "bend and curl" they are exactly as the same as the font of the forum...
the nazis didn't abolish the gothic type of font because they were modern. Hitler thought it was a Jewish kind of letter so he disliked it.

 

[T.j. Arnold]

I'm not talking about on computers!
I'm referring to written language. Half my family lives in Germany, I think I recognize their handwriting.

Again, it's not important, it's not like the in-game font will ever change.

 

[JASGripen]

but our letters don't "bend and curl" they are exactly as the same as the font of the forum...
the nazis didn't abolish the gothic type of font because they were modern. Hitler thought it was a Jewish kind of letter so he disliked it.

Exactly, which is what I wrote above.

 

[rud]

Won't that change the code to the game making it non-compatible if you wanted to say play multi-player?

No, changing the font this way does not change the checksum, at least not in Semper Fi, so it's a pretty good fix.

 

[Chromos]

That is german handwriting before it was banned as "jewish":

Taken from here..

Sütterlin type on www.fonts.com
I still learned that in school..

And that was used for books mostly: Fraktur

After the genious idea to deny the old cultural roots in writing and use the common antigua(Must be even more very german.. :wacko: ), we still didn't turned back.


The letters used on the enigma code are also a style of Fraktur..
Maybe that fits better the "Modern-German" style. but I can live with the older Fraktur style from now..

And also the fake cyrilic is a good fake cyrilic, it is a "latin-cyrilic" aka "fake-cyrilic" ..

Maybe the neutrals could a bit more different to the Allies..

Kind regards,
Chromos

 

[parasxos]

i believe this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451 is the most iconic and formal german army - industry font used back then.

 

[comsubpac]

i believe this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIN_1451 is the most iconic and formal german army - industry font used back then.

yes, it was used back then and used it is used today. as we can see the letters don't bend or curl. handwriting isa completely different matter. hitler didn't like the sutterlin and the fractur. fractur styles were replaced by the atiqua the same way it was used in the rest of the western world. sutterlin was replaced be several others like this one i learned in school:

but you don't use handwriting on maps or anything produced mechanically like the enigma thing above.

 

[Moltke]

It'd be great to at least have a Photoshop template to allow the community to design custom replacement fonts.