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[unmerged(8830)]

The Great Lakes of NA are very badly represented. Firstly, though not the most, the resource in Sault should be Copper... Native Americans traded from the Dakotas to the Huron with it...

There should be ports on the great lakes, many naval battles were fought in the war of 1812, for example, and many voyages of Exploration occured. Likewise, they should be connected to each other and to the Atlantic (through the St. Lawrence).

Michilimakinac should be connected with Sault: Historically, these straits were well traveled, and, after all, they are narrower than the Bosporus.

Even taking that into account... Paradox, you've made the best game I've ever played!

 

[unmerged(11486)]

I have several issues with lakes and rivers. We should be allowed to sail ships up river, and in the case of the Great Lakes, ships should be able to connect through the St. Lawarence Seaway. Canals and such would also be a nice addition.

Steele

 

[Castellon]

Originally posted by steelehc
I have several issues with lakes and rivers. We should be allowed to sail ships up river, and in the case of the Great Lakes, ships should be able to connect through the St. Lawarence Seaway. Canals and such would also be a nice addition.

Steele

The only problem with this is the St. Lawrence seaway did not exist during this time period.

The passage by river is in the game by treating the Great lake provinces as costal for colonization purposes.

 

[Medicine Man]

One of the recently introduced betas made it that you can only establish colonies in provinces that you are able to trace an unblocked path to. With that in mind, is any nation able to colonize the great lakes area or do you first have to colonize inwards from the Hudson Bay or Quebec regions?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Castellon]

Good question, I have no idea.

 

[unmerged(11486)]

I know the St. Lawrence wasn't built by 1820 (when was it built, btw?), but it was the only example I could think of. In any case, ships did sail up rivers.

Steele

 

[Derek Pullem]

Well yes but most of the naval battles in war of 1812 involved ships built on the lakes themselves. Otherwise I think the British navy would have sent a single man o war into the lakes and blown the US ships away. So it was not normal to traverse the St Lawrence with ocean ships in the period of the game

 

[SJG]

Originally posted by Medicine Man
One of the recently introduced betas made it that you can only establish colonies in provinces that you are able to trace an unblocked path to. With that in mind, is any nation able to colonize the great lakes area or do you first have to colonize inwards from the Hudson Bay or Quebec regions?

Inquiring minds want to know.

I was playing the Mar 29 beta version at the weekend and I successfully managed to colonise Sault, the province south of it and the province north-east of it without any neighbouring colonies.

Saying that though, I could trace a land path to it. I don't undestand how you could ever know of a colonisable province without being able to trace an unblocked (land or sea) path to it. What does unblocked mean? Am I missing something?

The only provinces I've ever been able to see with blocked paths are foreign capital provinces.

 

[kurtbrian]

if you maptraded, you could end up knowing about provinces you could not trace a route to.

suppose you as a landlocked german minor was allied to the english and they declared war on the Iroquis.

You didn't know about them but will learn of their existance when you go to war witht them.

Later you get friendly with them and decide to trade maps.

You will know a great deal about northamerica without knowing how to get there.

 

[VinceV]

My two cents:

There was no way to traverse Niagara Falls back then, so transit would only reach lake Ontario. As well, Lake Huron is incorrectly part of lake Michigan, but I can see what that is. But overall this would be tedious to rework the area. If you make the Gulf of St. Lawrence connect to lake Ontario, then you create a sea zone between many of the currently connected land provinces. Just not worth the effort and would not add to gameplay.

 

[L G]

It really wouldnt be worth it im my opinion either. They wont really have too much of an effect either...... i personally would rather see all the Terra ignoctia gone