Commando trait

[DrOnline]

I have five divisions of mountaineers as germany. I like having specialists
But when it comes to selecting a leader I'm perplexed by reading that a commando specialist "only" gives a 5% bonus to such troops. As a german, I'm mostly on the offence. Would you rather use an offensive leader with his 10% attack bonus instead of the commando? commandos tend to be Lt. generals only.

Any thoughts?

 

[unmerged(29126)]

It'd be more efficient to put a good OD-leader in command ... as you already said it gives you +5% with respect to "just" a commando-leader, so if you're sure you're not gonna be on the defensive go with the OD ...

... you also have to factor in the Skill-level ... Germany has some pretty good commando leaders (Dietl Skill4, Schoerner Skill3, Ringel Skill4, Student Skill3) ... and plenty of good Offensive leaders ...

Personally, I'd urge you to use the commando leaders, mostly because otherwise you'd miss out on some interesting characters ... and also because it is less efficient (thus not power-gamin' ) ....

Question of personal preference, really ... like so much in this game ...

 

[DrOnline]

Good point on the power gaming.. I'm handicapping myself only slightly at normal difficulty,and I'm scared of those menacing Russians on the border they have probably ten times as many men there. We'll see how this goes

Yeah, I'm using the commandoes now.. with winter speciality. I felt I had to promote him to general so I could use all five without penalties. Could have used 3+2 instead but I chose to use one single army.

Thanks for the answer.

 

[Vissarion]

I'd use the level 4 ones at least, remember they give a -5% penalty for non-specialist troops, so it would be kind of wasting them to not use them.

 

[DrOnline]

I thought that -5% "bonus" was subtracted from the troops being commanded, not from the enemy?

 

[unmerged(29126)]

I thought that -5% "bonus" was subtracted from the troops being commanded, not from the enemy?

Yep, that's correct ... I think Vissarion meant that you can't/shouldn't use them with regular troops (because of said -5%) so in order not to waste them you have to use them as the commander for the kind of units that do not get the -5% which are the specialist troops ...

 

[Vissarion]

Yep, that's correct ... I think Vissarion meant that you can't/shouldn't use them with regular troops (because of said -5%) so in order not to waste them you have to use them as the commander for the kind of units that do not get the -5% which are the specialist troops ...

Heh, yes that's right, thanks. Sorry for my unclear speak .

 

[unmerged(3221)]

I use commando leaders for small groupings of Para and mountain troops. I use Para in 2 div size corps commanded by Student et al. I build about 18 mountain div without brigades and use them in size 3 corps led by commando generals.

I later on build 24 Marine div for amphibious assaults when I venture overseas. I use the Marines in size 12 armies and they get regular commanders like Von Bock and Von Manstein.

As the USA I would generally use commando leaders only for marines, mountain, and para since they have a lot of them. But Germany doesn't have enough to competently command marines and all the other specialty units that slightly benefit from the commando trait which is poorly set up in the game.

 

[Patriotes1837]

I later on build 24 Marine div for amphibious assaults when I venture overseas. I use the Marines in size 12 armies and they get regular commanders like Von Bock and Von Manstein.

As the USA I would generally use commando leaders only for marines, mountain, and para since they have a lot of them. But Germany doesn't have enough to competently command marines and all the other specialty units that slightly benefit from the commando trait which is poorly set up in the game.

I usually use normal leaders for Marines and keep the commandos for mountain troops and paras except when I play Canada has they have a lot of Commando leaders and you don't build that many units anyway.