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The Yogi

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Originally posted by MKSheppard
I'm hoping to tie in the Assassination Mod with The Yogi's
New Order in the East events...so that certain options are not
available to you if Adolf is alive....

<bows deeply> I'm flattered that you include my events even while at beta in your great mod, but I would advise some caution, because while the events have been tested, they haven't been properly PLAY-tested yet. Only about an hour ago, I discovered two events (flag events for a milder Bitter Peace) had somehow dissapeared and had to replace them. (You can download v101 now). The New Order in the East events are likely to experience many major and minor corrections before I post them at the User Mods forum, that will be the final version (well, that's the idea anyway).
 

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if a coup is sucessful then germany should return ocupided France to France and then either both Vincy Fance and Fance fight it out in a french civil war you would have to give France some millitary aid or some thing or they would be reunited under France or Vincy France. Germany should retain their easter cconquests though perhaps have a small poland set up mabey as a puppet state also if they are still fighting the russians then the allies would aid which ever side was losing something theat they actually consided at one point to preserve the ballance of power though it was shot any way. also if their is a coup should Germany enter into war against Italy
 

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Here's what I have so far:

Here's what I got so far:

Replacement for Munich Event in germany.txt

#########################################################################
# The Treaty of Munich
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 2030
random = no
country = GER
trigger = {
exists = CZE
OR = {
control = { province = 578 data = CZE }
control = { province = 613 data = CZE }
control = { province = 616 data = CZE }
control = { province = 617 data = CZE }
}
NOT = {
OR = {
war = { country = CZE country = GER }
alliance = { country = CZE country = GER }
ispuppet = GER
puppet = { country = CZE country = GER }
}
}
}
name = "EVT_2030_NAME"
desc = "EVT_2030_DESC"
style = 0

date = { day = 29 month = september year = 1938 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2030A" # Demand Sudetenland!
command = { type = trigger which = 750 } # ENG
# Also trigger events for England and France that allow them to declare war?
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME2030B" # Leave well enough alone
command = { type = warentry which = USA value = -4 }
command = { type = warentry which = FRA value = -4 }
command = { type = warentry which = ENG value = -4 }
command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
}
}

Hitler AssassinatioN Events

#########################################################################
# The Beer Hall Bomb
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 739
random = no
country = GER

trigger = {
government = fascist
minister = 1 # AH alive
}

name = "The George Elser Bomb Plot"
desc = "After Stauffenberg's 20 July 1944 plot, George Elser's November 1939 assassination attempt comes the closest to killing Hitler. Working at night, the Swiss clock-maker hid a powerful time-bomb inside the podium Hitler was to use during his annual speech to honor the 'old comrades' in Munich. For some inexplicable reason, Hitler finished his speech early and left 12 minutes before the scheduled end of his speech, and the bomb went off, killing six and wounding sixty-five, but not Hitler."

style = 0

date = { day = 8 month = November year = 1939 }

action_a = {
name = "Hitler Leaves the Hall Early"
command = { type = dissent value = 10 }
}

action_b = {
name = "Hitler Finishes His Speech" #
command = { type = sleepminister which = 1 } # AH
command = { type = sleepminister which = 2 } # AH
command = { type = sleepminister which = 64 } # AH
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = headofstate which = 42 }
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 44 }
}
}

#########################################################################
# The von Gersdorff Attempt
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 740
random = no
country = GER

trigger = {
government = fascist
minister = 1 # AH alive
war = { country = GER country = SOV }
}

name = "The von Gersdorff Attempt"
desc = "On March 21, 1943, another attempt was made on Hitler's life, this time by an army officer holding a time bomb under his coat with a ten-minute fuze. The plan was to keep Hitler occupied for ten minutes at a exhibit of captured Soviet weapons in Berlin long enough for the time-bomb's timer to burn down and detonate the explosives, killing both von Gersdorff and Hitler. Once again, Hitler cheated death by suddenly dashing out of the exhibit hall after merely two minutes of listening to von Gersdorff, forcing the would-be suicide bomber to disable his bomb in the bathroom."

style = 0

date = { day = 21 month = March year = 1943 }

action_a = {
name = "Hitler leaves the exhibit early"
command = { }
}

action_b = {
name = "Hitler stays in the exhibit the full 10 minutes" #
command = { type = sleepminister which = 1 } # AH
command = { type = sleepminister which = 2 } # AH
command = { type = sleepminister which = 64 } # AH
command = { type = dissent value = 25 }
command = { type = headofstate which = 42 }
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 44 }
}
}
#########################################################################
# The Treaty of Munich - British Reply
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 750
random = no
country = ENG

name = "The Treaty Of Munich - Shall We Stand up to Hitler?"
desc = "During the negotiations for the Treaty of Munich, the British were informed that if they stood up to Hitler at Munich, an army-led and backed plot to coup Hitler and remove him from power would happen. 'Give me certain proof that Britain will fight for Czechoslovakia,' Gen. Beck tells his emissaries to Britain, 'and I will make an end of this regime.' The British chose to appease Hitler instead, and the stage was set for six years of destructive warfare in Europe."

style = 0

action_a = {
name = "Appease Hitler and hope for the best."
command = { type = trigger which = 2200 } # CZE
}

action_b = {
name = "Stand up to Hitler!" #
command = { type = trigger which = 751 } # GER
}
}
#########################################################################
# The German Army Coups Hitler
#########################################################################
event = {
id = 751
random = no
country = GER

name = "Hitler is Couped!"
desc = "An army-led coup, led by General Beck, has deposed of the Hitler Regime and installed a democratic government."

style = 0

action_a = {
name = "OK"
command = { type = sleepminister which = 1 } # AH
command = { type = sleepminister which = 2 } # AH
command = { type = sleepminister which = 64 } # AH
command = { type = sleepminister which = 43 } # HH
command = { type = sleepminister which = 54 } # HH
command = { type = sleepminister which = 44 } # JG
command = { type = sleepminister which = 57}
command = { type = headofstate which = 11 }
command = { type = headofgovernment which = 12 }
command = { type = foreignminister which = 13 }
command = { type = armamentminister which = 14 }
command = { type = ministerofsecurity which = 15 }
command = { type = ministerofintelligence which = 16 }
command = { type = chiefofstaff which = 17 }
command = { type = chiefofarmy which = 18 }
command = { type = chiefofnavy which = 19 }
command = { type = chiefofair which = 20 }
command = { type = leave_alliance }
command = { type = alignment which = communist value = -100 }
command = { type = alignment which = democratic value = 200 }
command = { type = alignment which = fascist value = -100 }
}
}
 

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OK, this is one assasination attempt you must have in your mod - by far the likiest one to kill Hitler, IMHO:

The Tresckow airplane bomb of march 1943. I mentioned this in another thread, but it might be worth putting in here too.

Hitler was making a visit to AGC headquarters at Smolensk and would return in his private plane. One of the staff officers at AGC, Tresckow, had a British made time bomb (its fuse working with acid corroding a piece of wire) given to him by conspirators at the Abwehr. Tresckow asked one of Hitlers Staff Officers, a Colonel Brandt if he could bring two bottles of brandy to a friend in Rastenburg and Brandt agreed.

The bombs went on the plane but didn't explode. Later another of the conspirators, Schalbrendorff, was able to retrieve the bomb from Brandt without it ever being discovered, and as he examined it he discovered that

"The fuse had worked; the glass globule had broken; the corrosive fluid had consumed the retainer wire;the striker had operated;but - the detonator cap had not reacted."

As Alan Clark puts it: " The Devil's Hand had protected Hitler."
 

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Just put in a "random = x" among the trigger conditions.
 

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Originally posted by Eyeless One
Had the German Army-led coup succeded and put Beck as head of government, would it have been a purely democratic one?

The odds are high that their would be a civil war. The plotters varied from Fascist to Reform Socialists in HOI terms. The majority of them were probably either Paternal Autocrat or Liberal-Conservative, again in HOI terms. They were far more worried about getting rid of Hitler and co then what form of government they would end up with really.

However, if they were getting real assistance from the Allies, I think any victorious anti-NAZI government would have to be democratic.
 

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I believe it was to be a transitional millitary dictatorship. Civil War led by the SS seems unlikley, as they would have had to take on both the army and the bulk of the German people, with Himmler likley dead. Of course, these kinds of things by their nature can spin totally out of control.

But overall, this was the coup attempt most likley to take down the Nazi's, and all the allies had to do was threaten a war that at this point they couldn't possibly lose!

Germany versus England, France and Chechezslovokia with maybe Poland and Russia as well? It was unlikley that Germany could even defeat the Chezes in their fortified mountains (as Hitler, seeing the defenses from the inside, later remarked) Think about all that and you know why the army wanted Hitler out.

As another poster said, the point was getting rid of Hitler and saving Germany from leaping into the Abyss. The details could be worked out later.
 

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Originally posted by MKSheppard

name = "The George Elser Bomb Plot"
desc = "After Stauffenberg's 20 July 1944 plot, George Elser's November 1939 assassination attempt comes the closest to killing Hitler. Working at night, the Swiss clock-maker hid a powerful time-bomb inside the podium Hitler was to use during his annual speech to honor the 'old comrades' in Munich. For some inexplicable reason, Hitler finished his speech early and left 12 minutes before the scheduled end of his speech, and the bomb went off, killing six and wounding sixty-five, but not Hitler."

Ehmmm... Guys? Sorry about this late interrupt, but there are some factual errors in the description of the Georg(!) Elser Bomb Plot. :(

1. His full name was Johann Georg Elser. Georg Elser is commonly used about him in research, though.
2. He was German, not Swiss. Born on January 3, 1903, in Hermaringen, Württemberg, Germany by German parents.
3. He worked in a watch factory for a while, but that doesn't really make him a clock-maker. He was more a versatile and skilled worker.

You can find more information about him and the plot here (in German, though):

http://www.shoa.de/p_georg_elser.html

If you want to know more about this man (and you don't happen to speak German), then try this link:

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/text/x06/xr0695.html

I'm sorry for being so nitty-gritty about this, but Georg Elser was one of my personal heroes, so I hope, you'll understand me. ;)

PS. Personally, I would love to see him included in a HOI-mod along with other plots to kill and overthrow Hitler and his henchmen, so please keep up the good work!