Will it be possible to combine the Ascension Mechanism? So biologically and cybernetically try to perfect your race? Yes I am a star trek fan and this is an allusion to the Borg
Combine the Ascension types
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As was said, you can not combine them. Not having picked one of the other, is the requirement to pick any of them.
The issues would be that they would propably become too OP if they could add Cybernetic to all the Biological Options.
If you want to play the borg, the first option would be to go for Hivemind anyway. And you have to consider what the borg as using the cybernetics for:
The most important piece of cybernetics is the Hivemind Uplink.
From there it is all about increasing physical world effectivenss. Increased strenght, durability, ability to work in a role.
All things that can be easily simulated with Biological Path.
There will be nothing OP If only first steps of Ascension will be possible to combine.
from what I understand is that you can only pick one or the other not both, but then I'm sure given time someone will come up with a mod so that you can have both
Cybernetic was something around +30% Habitability plus other stuff.
A nice bonus if you will go for 100% Synth bodies anyway. But adding that too the massively cut prices for Genemodding and the extra trait points?
All the pieces that you would normally improove with Genemodding, are already replaced by cybernetics. You would be trying to genemod cybernetics.
All they really need to do to make Psionics and Genemodding exclusive is to apply the "Shadowrun Rule": Cybernetics and (past base level) Genemodding disrupt the "Essence" of the body, thus disrupting Psionic abilities.
As I see it the paths have specific focusses:
Psionic path is primarily a leader Focussed Path. There is some affects for pops, but the Psionic Leaders is where the real power lies.
Robot path is praimilary a pop focussed path. You get immortal leaders, but the +20% to all income from pops and removing of food is where the real power lies.
With Biological you get to choose. You can either augment the pops ability to generate Leaders, or thier direct production yield. And you could even do specialised species for either. In either case your options will be less effective as one of the more specialised ones.
I can see how first level of psionics and first level of biological modification could be combined in a way that makes certain degree of sense and not be OP, although nerve-stapling should definitely disable psionics.
But not really any other combination.
Cybernetics is about replacing entire organs, up to Ghost in the Shell level of cyberization, so no point to extensively gen-mod those organs.
Cybernetics might be incompatible with psionics, just like Darth Vader lost more than half of his connection to the force by becoming cyborg (from having 200% of Palpatine potential down to 80%, according to Legends).
EDIT: On the second though, I think that first level of cybernetic ascension does not disable species from normal, non-ascension gene modding, so perhaps combination of cyberization and genemodding level one perks makes sense.
But not really any other combination.
Cybernetics is about replacing entire organs, up to Ghost in the Shell level of cyberization, so no point to extensively gen-mod those organs.
Cybernetics might be incompatible with psionics, just like Darth Vader lost more than half of his connection to the force by becoming cyborg (from having 200% of Palpatine potential down to 80%, according to Legends).
EDIT: On the second though, I think that first level of cybernetic ascension does not disable species from normal, non-ascension gene modding, so perhaps combination of cyberization and genemodding level one perks makes sense.
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I would rather see players allowed to make their choices on which paths to take regardless of previous choices - if you want to go for psionic robots then sure... but: introduce negative side-effects or reduced bonuses for mixed paths.
For instance I cannot in the current vanilla Utopia make a race that wants to figure out psionics through science rather than spiritualism. If it exists (psionics) I can guarantee you that scientists all over the galaxy would want to figure out how it works.
For instance I cannot in the current vanilla Utopia make a race that wants to figure out psionics through science rather than spiritualism. If it exists (psionics) I can guarantee you that scientists all over the galaxy would want to figure out how it works.
I proposed something I called "Ethics rule overrides" a while back:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-ethos-rule-overriders.1006009/#post-22571062
It would be nice if you could at least put one foot into each, but having done so, never be able to take any of them all the way to completion. If each was three levels deep instead of two, this would be perfect.
A mod to do this would be nice, because a proper Imperium of Man needs to have cyborgs, gene-warriors, and randomly occurring psychic pops, all at the same time.
A mod to do this would be nice, because a proper Imperium of Man needs to have cyborgs, gene-warriors, and randomly occurring psychic pops, all at the same time.