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ForVictory

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How much does it help for a general if it has all the combat traits like wedge, rally etc when fighting against a general with no combat traits but higher martial base level?
 

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Those traits only enable combat events. Those events last only for one day and are not very common and do not change very much.
Imho, martial skill ist by far better than any number of martial traits.
Some mods did change those traits to add +1 martial, thats senseful and better, imho.
 

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Martial is, by far, better. Those events really only become useful when two armies with otherwise identical generals and armies start to fight: Rally improves the morale of units that are starting to fall back (ie their pips are fading); Wedge increases the damage output of the units in your centre; Flanking improves the damage output of the units on the flanks. None of that is really useful when the enemy is rolling higher than you anyway, which is what happens when they have a higher Martial value.
 

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And what if all those units of the lower mart general have all kinds of discipline bonuses like omens, ideas and loyalty etc...?
 

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Disicpline is what determines units kill power, so that probably evens the fight a bit. They will likely still lose due to moral loss, but casualty figures are going to be bit more even.
 

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Personally I like steadfast a lot. I usually go for discipline > morale, which means my morale tends to be low. Steadfast has secured me victory in a number of battles, that would otherwise have been lost to morale.
 

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Keep in mind discipline is extra special for low-MP nations, where sticking around in combat too long can be a bad thing.
 

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What mods? I need it badly.

sorry, i don't remember which mods, but it's very easy even for common players to mod it by them self. Just have a look into the traits.txt and search for the traits you want to change and add a line like martial = 1 (not absolutly sure if is the right command though, but you will find out, when you read through the file)
It's even better, if you find a good mod of your choice, with an enhanced traits.txt (because the vanilla one is kinda boring and often senseless) and add it to that file.