Color blind support?

[TheRomanRuler]

Is HOI4 going to have color blind support?

If i would be color blind, i would not be able to see borders between nations. In fact i am not color blind, and i often have trouble seeing differences somewhere. And there are far worse situations than that, borders might change hugely in the game.
Some kind of "high contrast" option might be best, as that will help everyone who have color blindness to a point, and helps even those without color blindness.

 

[Augustus93]

It will not help color blind people at all. If you can't distinguish between green and red then no high contrast will help at all. What you need to do is mod the country colors to accommodate for your color blindness. Also the green and red colorblindness is just one common example, there are many "types" of color blindness.

 

[dav77-b]

I think these big fat red borders are enough

 

[TheRomanRuler]

It will not help color blind people at all. If you can't distinguish between green and red then no high contrast will help at all. What you need to do is mod the country colors to accommodate for your color blindness. Also the green and red colorblindness is just one common example, there are many "types" of color blindness.

It does help, even if you have total color blindness, you can distinguish between black and white.

 

[TheRomanRuler]

I think these big fat red borders are enough

Soviet Union is indeed way too big.

 

[AMANONLY]

I am colorblind, a moderate deutan (Red-Green), and I have a lot of trouble with borders sometimes. And looking at the picture the OP put up I have trouble distinguishing a lot of borders there. A colorblindness setting to help with that by adding a bit of a black borderline where borders should be would help. I don't have high expectations for that though, it is rare for games to have such support options like that. Only hope is someone to mod it.

 

[kviiri]

Personally I don't think a moderate-thickness black line on all borders would do any harm. I use such a mod in EU4 myself and find it to make the map far more readable. I also prefer it aesthetically over the "coloured" border it normally uses - but that's a matter of preference, of course.

EDIT: added one of my old screenshots for demonstration below:

Spoiler: Picture

 

[Augustus93]

It does help, even if you have total color blindness, you can distinguish between black and white.

It does not help like you described it, unless you are suggesting that every country would be black or white on the map. Increasing the contrast does virtually nothing to help remedy color blindness in any way.

 

[Ryltar]

I think these big fat red borders are enough

No they are not. I have even problems distinguishing Poland and Germany on the thread starter's screenshot.
Maybe you should not answer a thread you have absolutely no clue what you are talking of.

 

[dav77-b]

No they are not. I have even problems distinguishing Poland and Germany on the thread starter's screenshot.
Maybe you should not answer a thread you have absolutely no clue what you are talking of.

Why people dont get jokes?

 

[kviiri]

No they are not. I have even problems distinguishing Poland and Germany on the thread starter's screenshot.
Maybe you should not answer a thread you have absolutely no clue what you are talking of.

Maybe Hitler had the same problem

 

[Augustus93]

Just to add a small note, that screenshot is ridiculously old. The map doesn't look like that anymore. How can I know that it is old as hell? Because Hungary's colour was changed around a year ago to pinkish color.

 

[Ctanr]

yeah i think there should be an option for big black borders
shouldnt be so hard to implement

 

[TheRomanRuler]

It does not help like you described it, unless you are suggesting that every country would be black or white on the map. Increasing the contrast does virtually nothing to help remedy color blindness in any way.

I am not sure what is best way, but i believe black/white borders of some sort would help. If cartoons would not have them, they would be far more annoying to read, as borders would blend together more, and distinguishing white from white would be impossible.
With modern high resolution monitors, tiny borders could be added to almost everywhere. I have some photoshop experience and i can say that adding almost invisible (unless zoomed) borders can make surprising difference.

 

[TheRomanRuler]

Just to add a small note, that screenshot is ridiculously old. The map doesn't look like that anymore. How can I know that it is old as hell? Because Hungary's colour was changed more than a year ago to pinkish color.

Good point. I took that from HOI4`s steam page. Here is newer picture, showing quite visible black borders.

 

[Augustus93]

Good point. I took that from HOI4`s steam page. Here is newer picture, showing quite visible black borders.

That does seem to fix the issue I think. It seems to be a darker shade of the same color as the country color and so it should be very easy to mod to black if you would want that.

 

[TheRomanRuler]

That does seem to fix the issue I think. It seems to be a darker shade of the same color and so it should be very easy to mod to black if you would want that.

Yeah, looks clear to me. Would love to see what 2 nations of almost similar color bordering each others look like though.

 

[kviiri]

That does seem to fix the issue I think. It seems to be a darker shade of the same color as the country color and so it should be very easy to mod to black if you would want that.

There's a black line too, although I think if ought to be sliiiiightly thicker.

 

[Augustus93]

Yeah, looks clear to me. Would love to see what 2 nations of almost similar color bordering each others look like though.

You would still see the dark lines though so it would not matter all that much. It would only blend together when you zoom out really much.

 

[AMANONLY]

The new picture looks a good bit better from the small amount that I can see, though I still worry about what 2 similarly colored nations borders will look like.