Colonization Idea (not autonomy)

[leadshooter69]

Colonization Culture Idea

The min autonomy not applying to colonial nations gave me an idea. Colonization in many places did not involve a replacement of the peoples living there. The areas that that did happen mostly are in the areas covered by the colonial nations. Why not have culture flipping on colonization happen just for colonial nations (or colonizing a colonial region from overseas)?

Even Siberia shouldn't have a complete replacement of the Siberian peoples by colonizers, as can be seen by a map of cultures in the Soviet Union. Russia gets a bonus to assimilation anyway.

 

[nicechinos]

The min autonomy not applying to colonial nations gave me an idea. Colonization in many places did not involve a replacement of the peoples living there. The areas that that did happen mostly are in the areas covered by the colonial nations. Why not have culture flipping on colonization happen just for colonial nations (or colonizing a colonial region from overseas)?

Even Siberia shouldn't have a complete replacement of the Siberian peoples by colonizers, as can be seen by a map of cultures in the Soviet Union. Russia gets a bonus to assimilation anyway.

1. Please don't use soviet maps when presenting a case about nationalities in Russian Empire. Soviets were heavily anti-Russian. They thought that consciousness of Russian ethos would overcome that of proletariat and would ruin the World Revolution. I wouldn't even start conversation about reinvented minor national identities and ban (and reinvention) of Russian language. If you check maps from 19th century (even those prepared by foreigners) you won't be able to find some major nationalities which are present on this map. Please try to find some numbers which date back before Revolution.

2. The map doesn't provide any evidence about population number. Density makes sense because it varies greatly between cities and taiga/tundra. If you take a look at Yakutia for example there are red dots (Russian nationality), and huge Yakut part. However, red dots are cities and production centers (gold, fur, timber, etc). I took the most recent numbers (really lazy to look for historical one; pls do it yourself if you are not) which gave me density of 2411 ppl/km2 in Yakutsk (the capital of Yakutia Republic) vs 0.3 ppl in the whole Republic. Tundra is a difficult place to live in.

3. Even is a bad word. Russia was much more accommodating and welcoming for annexed natives and conquered nations than "enlightened" GB, Spain or Portugal which mass murdered and put them in concentration camps (eradication of natives in S. and N. America is unrecognised genocide). Russia doesn't get assimilation bonus (accepted culture threshold, right?) while GB does. Paradox, what are you smoking there? Many minor nations preserved their culture and habitat in Russian north and far east regions.

4. Colonisation required massive influx of European settlers and eradication of natives in case of S. and N. America.

 

[Gaamel]

This game does not represent multicultural groups at all. In the case of Western Europe this is "ok" because catholicism didn't allow heretics back then (hello Isabella, hello Simon de Montfort). The provinces were culturally united to some extent. In Central and Eastern Europe this is nonsense though, with German, Czech, Polish, Romanian communities inside the same villages...I'm not even talking about Asia Minor, Lebanon, Syria, with many different groups of people living without a cultural and religious unity.

Vic2 is much better if you're interested in different cultures inside the same population.