Colonialism won't spread?
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Not a tech support issue so moved to main forum. If the community agrees it's likely to be a bug, post in Bug Reports please.
It says right there, in the tooltip
It spreads to any adjacent province
It spreads to any friendly nearby province (this is the part that will spread across a sea zone)
It spreads in any port or capital of nation with colonial subject(s)
Now, England being an island and all, it can't spread to the mainland via an adjacent province. For it to spread across the channel whoever is on the other side needs positive relations with England, and thats, as usual, not the case.
It should pop up in Iberia soon enough unless someone's doing something very weird down there (aka not colonizing with either castile or portugal). If not you can always force spawn it for yourself by developing a province.
It spreads to any adjacent province
It spreads to any friendly nearby province (this is the part that will spread across a sea zone)
It spreads in any port or capital of nation with colonial subject(s)
Now, England being an island and all, it can't spread to the mainland via an adjacent province. For it to spread across the channel whoever is on the other side needs positive relations with England, and thats, as usual, not the case.
It should pop up in Iberia soon enough unless someone's doing something very weird down there (aka not colonizing with either castile or portugal). If not you can always force spawn it for yourself by developing a province.
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None of the conditions are satisfied; France doesn't have any colonial nations, none of the neighbouring provinces (that is, the ones touching france's provinces) have colonialism, and although England's provinces are "nearby" (i.e. they share a water tile), England isn't friendly (i.e. England's opinion of France is less than 0)
So basically it so happens europe won't get colonialism until/or after the next institution fires?
*saying this because the spain player killed portugal and isn't going to colonise, and even then it wouldn't spread accross europe quick enough.
Spread across sea tiles is only for countries with positive relations.
Anyone with colonies in the new world will get growth in their ports however. If nobody is colonizing you won't see much spread and that's more or less intended (seems a bit odd for Spain not to colonize though both as it denies the institution and as its most likely missing out on the colonies themselves but I guess that's up to him/her).
If you want it to spread you will have to either colonize in the new world, be near someone else who does or have France befriend England.
Depending on who is human/ai you might also consider conquering land in or adjacent to the British isles yourself.
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Doesn't seem like a bug. If Spain isn't colonizing, then Spain doesn't get Colonialism.
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Still, look on the bright side, everyone on mainland Europe is in the same position tech wise, so it isn't like just you're behind. 
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As England i got en event giving one of my provinces full colonialism after maybe 10 years it appeared in Iberia. Working as intended I guess, but still I had the biggest colonial empire and it didnt spawn in my lands...
Now I know what to do the next time I play in the British Isles... *Insert Evil Laugh Here*
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Yes, instead, England is ascendant. As it rightfully should be.Still, look on the bright side, everyone on mainland Europe is in the same position tech wise, so it isn't like just you're behind.
RULE BRITANNIA!
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I kinda wish that sea zones also counted as high-development provinces in terms of institution spread. For instance, in this case, it'd take a few years to have Colonialism spread from the english coast to its nearest sea zones. Some years after that, it spreads to the next sea zones in all directions. This might mean spreading too fast into America, I wonder? So maybe we'd make deep sea spread much slower or not at all.
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Have the deep sea only spread institutions after... What was the diplo tech level that lowered the deep sea attrition? That one. Once any country that embraced that institution reaches that diplo tech level, the institution can spread through the ocean provinces.
Suggestion :
Put in a trade agreement mechanic so that insititutions spread from province to adjacent provinces and from nations that have embraced the institution to their trade partner , would be more realistic no? yes i do realise its abusable in multiplayer though
Put in a trade agreement mechanic so that insititutions spread from province to adjacent provinces and from nations that have embraced the institution to their trade partner , would be more realistic no? yes i do realise its abusable in multiplayer though
it usually spreads when you have a center of trade which is fine I think...but could be changed for spreading to provinces with X amount of provincial trade power instead
although I think centers of trade should be more dynamic, I would love to see more provincial modifiers via events and decisions (like Calais, some Lubeck event/decision etc).