So....I just won a war with the otto and got these colonialism CB on all their Asia/Africa provinces, I still don't know CBs well but I guess this is not so normal, right?
Colonialism on the Ottomans
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Holy moly which version are you playing still having this CB? xD
I think it's WAD. Not very logical, sure, but that's probably one of the reasons why this CB was removed...
I think it's WAD. Not very logical, sure, but that's probably one of the reasons why this CB was removed...
And...when was this CB exactly removed? Like yesterday?
Because I should have the last version....?
I have 1.24 Japan and the game updates automatically so...
Also I tried it breaking the truce annd, it actually works, I get 25% AE and 50% cost for ALL the provinces me (or my vassals) are bordering, that are in Africa or Asia, No Europe....got 30 AE with a 100 WS....but I don't think this is gonna last forever....
From the wiki:
In other words:
Ottoman capital is in Europe, for provinces to count overseas they must be on a different continent and not have a direct line to the capital.
You got the CB because you cut off the Ottoman Asian land from their European holdings.
In other words:
Ottoman capital is in Europe, for provinces to count overseas they must be on a different continent and not have a direct line to the capital.
You got the CB because you cut off the Ottoman Asian land from their European holdings.
Oh, maybe it's DLC related... I play almost always with all DLCs... I guess Mare Nostrum did that.
Anyway, that's not your question ^^
So: Colonialism is available for every province which is overseas for you and your enemy, while you have a common border.
Since Ottoman capital is in Europe, all their african and asian provinces are overseas.
Your capital is in the Indian Sub continent i guess, which means every province in asia or africa is overseas, too.
Your beautiful snake through the Mashrek gives you a common border.
-> Colonial CB for every Ottoman province which is not in Europe.
*EDIT* sniped ^^ @ShoGuL added the "line"-restriction i forgot. thx
Anyway, that's not your question ^^
So: Colonialism is available for every province which is overseas for you and your enemy, while you have a common border.
Since Ottoman capital is in Europe, all their african and asian provinces are overseas.
Your capital is in the Indian Sub continent i guess, which means every province in asia or africa is overseas, too.
Your beautiful snake through the Mashrek gives you a common border.
-> Colonial CB for every Ottoman province which is not in Europe.
*EDIT* sniped ^^ @ShoGuL added the "line"-restriction i forgot. thx
yeah, cause the wiki this time confuses a little bit, before this I thought "overseas" was only like.....oversea, but it's just "on a different continet"....I like this, so it can be done with every one, but otto are special because they have provinces in 3 different continents......I could do this even with Russia if I cut asia away from Europe, right?
Oh, maybe it's DLC related... I play almost always with all DLCs... I guess Mare Nostrum did that.
Anyway, that's not your question ^^
So: Colonialism is available for every province which is overseas for you and your enemy, while you have a common border.
Since Ottoman capital is in Europe, all their african and asian provinces are overseas.
Your capital is in the Indian Sub continent i guess, which means every province in asia or africa is overseas, too.
Your beautiful snake through the Mashrek gives you a common border.
-> Colonial CB for every Ottoman province which is not in Europe.
*EDIT* sniped ^^ @ShoGuL added the "line"-restriction i forgot. thx
I don't get it....you mean Mare Nostrum deleted that CB or added it? Anyway I play with all DLC's too, and my capital is in North America continent
and it gets even worse up in the caucasus but.....I took 13 forts, I blame myself too, but it had to be done
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Am i totally wrong or is Colonialism the CB you could only get as Explo ideas finisher? This was replaced with the possibility to fabricate claims in America without common border. (And Asia/Africa for Expansion ideas).
Or is this another CB i just forgot? ^^
It's another CB. It's meant to be used by Europeans against other Europeans to take their colonies when you border them.
In this case, his capital is in the Americas and the Ottomans capital is in Europe, so their Asian and African holdings are 'colonies' in game logic.
It seems by pure coincidence you made these provinces pass the requirements for colonialism CB. Just a quick question: do you have exploration ideas?
It feels like a very good tactic to steal this land in such way, because CB seems rather decent.
And Mare Nostrum has nothing to do with it. It is a completely different CB than the one we used to get from finishing Exploration ideas.
It feels like a very good tactic to steal this land in such way, because CB seems rather decent.
And Mare Nostrum has nothing to do with it. It is a completely different CB than the one we used to get from finishing Exploration ideas.
Well, it could be the best CB, but it just doesn't apply for every province like Spread the Revolution CB does
Actually I took Exploration ideas......to explore, but I only got 4 ideas and then after reaching persia and circumnavigating the globe I left them for Quantity, so I never ever finished the group to get the "possibility to fabricate claim on overseas provinces", which only lets you make claim, it doesn't give permanent claim on all overseas provinces , I think.......anyway RIGHT NOW I don't have them
Also, before this I got Colonialism CB on all colonies and cities of England/France/Portgual/Castille/Aragon/Norway that were in America or Africa, and I got them just by "starting" a colony of mine, not even finishing it
Nobody needs exploration ideas for this cb to appear. Cut them off and you get it.
Standard strategy to reduce WS costs for those provinces to make followup wars easier.
Everything you see is normal.
Standard strategy to reduce WS costs for those provinces to make followup wars easier.
Everything you see is normal.
Yeah, the point is that I've never done that before, and I've never seen somebody doing it this way, that's why I was confused
I just wanted to be sure that Exploration isn't needed. Myself I haven't heard about this tactic, but calling it "normal" isn't entirely correct. It makes sense from the requirements, but considering their land is just few steps away...
It's as normal as a royal marriage. It's EU4, you're bound to run into things you're never seen before.
Just because you've never done it doesn't mean it's niche or high-level.
All you need to do is cut off their provinces. No prerequisites, no preparation, nothing else required.
Declare war, take provinces, get colonialism cb, done.