Colonialism Institution spreads in trade company regions. Is it right?

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neutralguy

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I play as Castile in 1.24.1 and colonized most of west Africa and south Africa and started getting into east Africa. My strategy is to stop institutions from spreading in my trade company regions to keep my African neighbors technologically less advanced so I can expand quickly.

So far I have been successful at stopping Feudalism and Renaissance from spreading. I basically only take provinces in trade company regions. As soon as I have territorial cores (before Feudalism or Renaissance is "present"), I add those provinces to my trade companies. This immediately stops institution's progress towards "present" even if I have embraced both institutions. This way, my neighbors will not get any institution growth from me regardless of our relationships.

This apparently doesn't work for Colonialism any more. As soon as Colonialism spawns, most of my trade company provinces get "Port or Capital of an old world country that has colonial subjects in the New World" boost and are rushing towards having Colonialism to be present in about 7 years. Obviously I have two colonial subjects as well.

Is there any way I can stop my African neighbors (or future Asian neighbors) from getting Colonialism this quickly from me? I thought all institution spread can be stopped by adding provinces to a trade company? I am now confused. Thank you for your help in advance!
 

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I assume you're brutally slaughtering the natives and taking their land? The AE from that should ensure bad relations for long enough that it's not much of an issue. Chances are they catch up eventually in terms of institutions but they are still way behind in total - in ideas, in unit types, in the fact that you will vastly outnumber them by the time their units are more dangerous than tissue paper armed with a sharpened watermelon.

A significant delay should be more than enough is my point. They still have significant inherent disadvantages compared to you. In any case it's really only the TC land that's actually worth the effort of taking.
 

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This apparently doesn't work for Colonialism any more. As soon as Colonialism spawns, most of my trade company provinces get "Port or Capital of an old world country that has colonial subjects in the New World" boost and are rushing towards having Colonialism to be present in about 7 years. Obviously I have two colonial subjects as well.

That does not sound like it's WAD. I would suggest that you post this in the bug subforum too.
 

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Thank you both. I read Trade Company wiki page again. I noticed it actually says: "(Trade company provinces) do not have the embraced institutions of their owner spread to them. Does that mean any other spread boosters, such as adjacency to friendly / unfriendly provinces or in my case, "Port or Capital of an old world country that has colonial subjects in the New World" are still in effect?

Can someone confirm this? Thank you!
 

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Thank you both. I read Trade Company wiki page again. I noticed it actually says: "(Trade company provinces) do not have the embraced institutions of their owner spread to them. Does that mean any other spread boosters, such as adjacency to friendly / unfriendly provinces or in my case, "Port or Capital of an old world country that has colonial subjects in the New World" are still in effect?

Can someone confirm this? Thank you!


Yep, that's exactly it.