Colonial woes - what to do with Aztecs?

[Beagá]

So in my Hansa game I finally invaded Aztecs (Spain began making moves there - GTFO papists! I will get it first!) in order to get all that lovely gold. Gold.

GOLD!

But, I don´t know all the rules yet. I got three provinces from the aztecs, if I get 5 later... will I then get a new colonial Nation? I have two so far, Hanseatic Canada and New Hansa (pretty spiffy name isn´t it )

On the other hand what if I keep the three provinces for myself and fully develop them? What about getting 100% warscore and making them a protectorate?

 

[knoddy]

I too would like to know what happens if you conquor provinces from natives etc in colonial regions. I thought that this might be a good way to get some easy provinces in my Jihad achieve. But dont want to go to all the effort to steal some provinces and have them become a colonial nation.

 

[Dr Freud]

They will indeed become a colonial nation once you have five provinces in that region (Mexico). That could be 5+ native provinces, 5 colonies or some combination of the two.

 

[StatikShocker]

with 1.5 you need 5 cored provinces I believe. You used to be able to full annex aztec and get a mexico with free cores. no more

 

[Beagá]

Hmmmm coring time then I guess.

Since there are so many doubts I´ll update with screenshots as things evolve

 

[Beagá]

Ok, confirming:

1- Conquering 5 aztecs didn´t make a colonial nation.
2- Once I cored 5 aztec provinces, I got it.

So, if you got 7 provinces don´t core ALL of them. Just 5.

Also, colonizing colonial México might spare you some administration points and grief with Overextension.

The question still remains however If keeping 4 gold provinces is better than creating a colonial nation.

 

[jonman122]

I've found it much more profitable to just fully annex the Aztecs and just deal with the over-extension until you get 5 cores and the entire thing gets immediately cored by the colonial nation. It'll have a problem with rebels for the next 50 years but that's nothing big brother can't help with.

 

[Beagá]

You often don´t have a big brother and overextension creates tons of bad events and increases chances of DOWs, specially from coalitions.

Overextension above 100%? No thanks I´ll pass.

 

[jonman122]

You often don´t have a big brother and overextension creates tons of bad events and increases chances of DOWs, specially from coalitions.

Overextension above 100%? No thanks I´ll pass.

By big brother I mean you, for your colonial nation as in you defend them from the rebels. You actually make a lot more profit by having the entirety of mexico as a colonial nation and receiving tariffs than you do if you only stick to 4 colonies and a protectorate of the Aztecs. I have no idea why you're so disinclined to have your overextension over 100%, it would last roughly 5 years and will most likely get you some decent revolts but the profits you would get out of it in the end are extraordinary compared to just letting portugal and castille chew off their parts at will while you dilly around.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Make 4 colonies. When the 5th is almost finished, full annex all of the Aztec lands. When the 5th finishes, all of the Aztec lands convert to your colony, and provided you got the Aztec territory before the colonial nation formed, they'll all be cores in 1.5 also.

 

[Alliegorical]

Make 4 colonies. When the 5th is almost finished, full annex all of the Aztec lands. When the 5th finishes, all of the Aztec lands convert to your colony, and provided you got the Aztec territory before the colonial nation formed, they'll all be cores in 1.5 also.

 

[Yxklyx]

Make 4 colonies. When the 5th is almost finished, full annex all of the Aztec lands. When the 5th finishes, all of the Aztec lands convert to your colony, and provided you got the Aztec territory before the colonial nation formed, they'll all be cores in 1.5 also.

It feels so gamey though. I think these rules need a reworking.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

It feels so gamey though. I think these rules need a reworking.

Playing the game is gamey.

Every patch gives a new rule set. Use it or make up your own, the choice is yours.

 

[Tijean]

Don't full annex the Aztec if you are not doing the trick. It gonna ruin your country in few years. I got 3 colonie in mexico region when i full annex then. I got 1k gold from the quest. France dit already colonise the rest of the coast line. So almost 200 overextension for aztec? Bitch please... the only way to avoid it is to do the 4 colony trick.

 

[KamSolusar]

Playing the game is gamey.

Every patch gives a new rule set. Use it or make up your own, the choice is yours.

^Wisdom

 

[Isaios]

with 1.5 you need 5 cored provinces I believe. You used to be able to full annex aztec and get a mexico with free cores. no more

I forgot this an annexed the entire thing in the firm belief it'd all become one nice big Colonial Nation... It didn't. On the other hand, I now know what having 387% overextention looks like ^_^