Colonial Events

Khephren · Jul 25, 2006

I will post my events on the Expulsion, just as a contrast. ( Did them a while ago )

Code:

# Great Upheaval
event = {
	id = 17769012
	trigger = { OR = { 
                      AND = {
                  NOT = { relation = { country = FRA value = 0 } }
                  NOT = { alliance = { country = FRA country = ENG } } }
                          war = { country = FRA country = ENG } }
                          owned = { province = 116 data = -1 }
                  NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 116 data = pagan }} 
		OR = { 
			owned = { province = 117 data = ENG }
			owned = { province = 115 data = ENG } }
                  }
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "Great Upheaval"
	desc = "Though the French initially colonised Acadia, various treaties traded possession of the region between the British and French through the 1600s and beyond. The Treaty of Utrecht in 1713 saw the territory of Acadia definitively ceded to the British. The Acadians were forced to swear an oath in 1730 giving their allegiance to the British crown but with a caveat that they would not be required to bear arms against the French or First Nations. In 1754, with hostilities growing in the lead-up to the Seven Years' War, the Acadians were ordered to renew their oath — but this time, without including any reservation against fighting the French or their Mi'kmaq neighbours. The majority of Acadians refused. The British responded by forcing thousands of the French-speaking inhabitants to board ships and sending them south, with most being distributed among the British American colonies, sent back to France, or shipped to British prisons."
	style = 3

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1754 }
	offset = 300
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1764 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Expulsion"
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 115 value = anglosaxon }
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 115 value = protestant }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 115 value = -1 }
		command = { type = population which = 115 value = -1289 }
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 116 value = anglosaxon }
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 116 value = protestant }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 116 value = -2 }
		command = { type = population which = 116 value = -2078 }
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 117 value = anglosaxon }
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 117 value = protestant }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 117 value = -1 }
		command = { type = population which = 117 value = -1289 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
		command = { type = population which = 1778 value = 203 }#Maryland
		command = { type = population which = 1779 value = 70 }#Raleigh
		command = { type = population which = 114 value = 125 }
		command = { type = population which = 102 value = 166 }
		command = { type = population which = 103 value = 261 }
		command = { type = population which = 110 value = 200 }
		command = { type = population which = 106 value = 200 }
		command = { type = population which = 109 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = 111 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = 1781 value = 100 }#PEdwardIsle
		command = { type = population which = 87 value = 63 }
		command = { type = population which = 85 value = 96 }
		command = { type = population which = 54 value = 46 }
		command = { type = population which = 45 value = 75 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 54 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 54 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 54 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 54 }
		command = { type = population which = 230 value = 50 }
		command = { type = badboy value = 5 }
		command = { type = cash value = -100 }##administrative costs
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 17769013 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "No, it is inhumane"
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 25 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 116 }###Acadians were on edge
		command = { type = revolt which = 116 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 117 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 115 }
		command = { type = cash value = -250 }##Loss in taxes in trade
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 17769014 }
	}
}
# Great Upheaval
event = {
	id = 17769013
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "Le Grand Dérangement"
	desc = "Though the French initially colonised Acadia, various treaties traded possession of the region between the British and French through the 1600s and beyond. The Treaty of Utrecht in 1713 saw the territory of Acadia definitively ceded to the British. The Acadians were forced to swear an oath in 1730 giving their allegiance to the British crown but with a caveat that they would not be required to bear arms against the French or First Nations. In 1754, with hostilities growing in the lead-up to the Seven Years' War, the Acadians were ordered to renew their oath — but this time, without including any reservation against fighting the French or their Mi'kmaq neighbours. The majority of Acadians refused. The British responded by forcing thousands of the French-speaking inhabitants to board ships and sending them south, with most being distributed among the British American colonies, sent back to France, or shipped to British prisons."
	style = 3

	action_a = {
		name = "Insanity"
		command = { type = population which = 1778 value = 203 }#Maryland
		command = { type = population which = 1779 value = 70 }#Raleigh
		command = { type = population which = 116 value = 312 }#Nova
		command = { type = population which = 115 value = 147 }#Acadia
		command = { type = population which = 114 value = 125 }
		command = { type = population which = 102 value = 166 }
		command = { type = population which = 103 value = 261 }
		command = { type = population which = 110 value = 200 }
		command = { type = population which = 106 value = 200 }
		command = { type = population which = 1781 value = 100 }
		command = { type = population which = 109 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = 111 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = 230 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = 87 value = 63 }
		command = { type = population which = 85 value = 96 }
		command = { type = population which = 54 value = 46 }
		command = { type = population which = 45 value = 75 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 17769013 }
	}
}
# Great Upheaval
event = {
	id = 17769014
	trigger = {       event = 17769012
                          stability = 3
                          owned = { province = 116 data = -1 } 
		OR = { 
			owned = { province = 117 data = ENG }
			owned = { province = 115 data = ENG } }
                  }
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "Acadians return"
	desc = "Though the French initially colonised Acadia, various treaties traded possession of the region between the British and French through the 1600s and beyond. The Treaty of Utrecht in 1713 saw the territory of Acadia definitively ceded to the British. The Acadians were forced to swear an oath in 1730 giving their allegiance to the British crown but with a caveat that they would not be required to bear arms against the French or First Nations. In 1754, with hostilities growing in the lead-up to the Seven Years' War, the Acadians were ordered to renew their oath — but this time, without including any reservation against fighting the French or their Mi'kmaq neighbours. The majority of Acadians refused. The British responded by forcing thousands of the French-speaking inhabitants to board ships and sending them south, with most being distributed among the British American colonies, sent back to France, or shipped to British prisons."
	style = 3

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1770 }
	offset = 3000
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1800 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Who Cares"
		command = { type = population which = 117 value = 100 }
		command = { type = population which = 116 value = 312 }
		command = { type = population which = 115 value = 147 }
	}
}

The province culture trigger is bugged and does not work. As far as gaining bailiffs and colonists in your action B, I totally disagree. The English had already asked the Acadians to swear loyalty, if they had not gone ahead with the Deportation, the unrest wouldn't have simply vanished. They actually brought in many settlers once the Acadians were gone, I don't see it happening while they are still there.

De-VILLARS · Jul 28, 2006

i've just reworked the trigger script

Code:

# Great Upheaval
event = {
	id = 17769012
	trigger = { 
		OR = { 
			AND = {
				NOT = { 
					relation = { country = FRA value = 0 } 
				}
				NOT = { 
					alliance = { country = FRA country = ENG } 
				} 
				war = { country = FRA country = ENG } 
				owned = { province = 116 data = -1 }
				NOT = { 
					provincereligion = { province = 116 data = pagan }
				}
			} 
		OR = { 
			owned = { province = 117 data = ENG }
			owned = { province = 115 data = ENG }
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "Great Upheaval"

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1754 }
	offset = 300
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1764 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Expulsion"
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 115 value = anglosaxon }
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 115 value = protestant }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 115 value = -1 }
		command = { type = population which = 115 value = -1289 }
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 116 value = anglosaxon }
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 116 value = protestant }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 116 value = -2 }
		command = { type = population which = 116 value = -2078 }
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 117 value = anglosaxon }
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 117 value = protestant }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 117 value = -1 }
		command = { type = population which = 117 value = -1289 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
		command = { type = population which = 1778 value = 203 }#Maryland
		command = { type = population which = 1779 value = 70 }#Raleigh
		command = { type = population which = 114 value = 125 }
		command = { type = population which = 102 value = 166 }
		command = { type = population which = 103 value = 261 }
		command = { type = population which = 110 value = 200 }
		command = { type = population which = 106 value = 200 }
		command = { type = population which = 109 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = 111 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = 1781 value = 100 }#PEdwardIsle
		command = { type = population which = 87 value = 63 }
		command = { type = population which = 85 value = 96 }
		command = { type = population which = 54 value = 46 }
		command = { type = population which = 45 value = 75 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 54 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 54 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 54 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 54 }
		command = { type = population which = 230 value = 50 }
		command = { type = badboy value = 5 }
		command = { type = cash value = -100 }##administrative costs
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 17769013 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "No, it is inhumane"
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 25 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 116 }###Acadians were on edge
		command = { type = revolt which = 116 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 117 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 115 }
		command = { type = cash value = -250 }##Loss in taxes in trade
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 17769014 }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = badboy value = -1 }[/COLOR]
	}
}

# Great Upheaval
event = {
	id = 17769013
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "Le Grand Dérangement"

	action_a = {
		name = "Insanity"
		command = { type = population which = 1778 value = 203 }#Maryland
		command = { type = population which = 1779 value = 70 }#Raleigh
		command = { type = population which = 116 value = 312 }#Nova
		command = { type = population which = 115 value = 147 }#Acadia
		command = { type = population which = 114 value = 125 }
		command = { type = population which = 102 value = 166 }
		command = { type = population which = 103 value = 261 }
		command = { type = population which = 110 value = 200 }
		command = { type = population which = 106 value = 200 }
		command = { type = population which = 1781 value = 100 }
		command = { type = population which = 109 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = 111 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = -1 value = 175 }
		command = { type = population which = 230 value = 50 }
		command = { type = population which = 87 value = 63 }
		command = { type = population which = 85 value = 96 }
		command = { type = population which = 54 value = 46 }
		command = { type = population which = 45 value = 75 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 17769013 }
	}
}

# Great Upheaval
event = {
	id = 17769014
	trigger = {       
		event = 17769012
		stability = 3
		owned = { province = 116 data = -1 }
			OR = { 
				owned = { province = 117 data = ENG }
				owned = { province = 115 data = ENG } 
			}
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "Acadians return"

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1770 }
	offset = 3000
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1800 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Who Cares"
		command = { type = population which = 117 value = 100 }
		command = { type = population which = 116 value = 312 }
		command = { type = population which = 115 value = 147 }
	}
}

Khephren · Jul 28, 2006

Of course I was just posting my own events to show effects, so you'll have to sift through the prov#'s and such ( Sorry )

o

De-VILLARS · Jul 28, 2006

Khephren said:
Of course I was just posting my own events to show effects, so you'll have to sift through the prov#'s and such ( Sorry ) o

i wait for Yoda's opinion but i think that your events are better

unmerged(17856) · Jul 28, 2006

Khephren said:
As far as gaining bailiffs and colonists in your action B, I totally disagree. The English had already asked the Acadians to swear loyalty, if they had not gone ahead with the Deportation, the unrest wouldn't have simply vanished. They actually brought in many settlers once the Acadians were gone, I don't see it happening while they are still there.

The Acadians swore loyalty but failed to fight for the English when they were asked to. For that, they could not be trusted and had to go. I'm not too sure how unrestful they would have been had they stayed. My impression was that they were uncomfortable, but had not really reached that critical mass for revolt...

Semi-Lobster · Jul 28, 2006

ribbon22 said:
The Acadians swore loyalty but failed to fight for the English when they were asked to. For that, they could not be trusted and had to go. I'm not too sure how unrestful they would have been had they stayed. My impression was that they were uncomfortable, but had not really reached that critical mass for revolt...

I think a small revolt risk would be fine. While the general Acadian population where restless, they where generally not inclined to taking up arms but that does not mean though that there wheren't many rabble rousers who called for the English to be thrown out of Acadia and a few who took up arms and fled into the forest to continue to fight against the English.

De-VILLARS · Aug 17, 2006

d'iberville events submitted

ave we already made event for Louisbourg

:wacko:

I will post modified events for "le grand dérangement"

Ayeshteni · Aug 17, 2006

gah didn't see this thread

*rips out hair*

Guess I better start at the beginning...
EDIT: ....tomorrow.

Ayeshteni

Semi-Lobster · Aug 23, 2006

De-VILLARS said:
d'iberville events submitted

ave we already made event for Louisbourg :wacko:

I will post modified events for "le grand dérangement"

Sorry, I missed this! I should come to the AGCEEP forum more often I guess!

The Louisbourg stuff is done. Can't wait to see your new "le grand dérangement" event

unmerged(17856) · Aug 23, 2006

Semi-Lobster said:
I think a small revolt risk would be fine. While the general Acadian population where restless, they where generally not inclined to taking up arms but that does not mean though that there wheren't many rabble rousers who called for the English to be thrown out of Acadia and a few who took up arms and fled into the forest to continue to fight against the English.

Right, however, you should take a bit of time to consider how rebels are treated in the game, what they're capable of doing, and what kinds of effects might result if a revolt did occur. IMO, the Acadian resistance doesn't merit the possibilty for a revolt. However, if we're implementing a culture plan here, then I'd be all for an Acadian culture

(I can't really see anyone arguing against one other than for reasons of conservation, which can be put to rest considering we have 20+ to use.

Semi-Lobster · Aug 23, 2006

ribbon22 said:
Right, however, you should take a bit of time to consider how rebels are treated in the game, what they're capable of doing, and what kinds of effects might result if a revolt did occur. IMO, the Acadian resistance doesn't merit the possibilty for a revolt. However, if we're implementing a culture plan here, then I'd be all for an Acadian culture (I can't really see anyone arguing against one other than for reasons of conservation, which can be put to rest considering we have 20+ to use.

You're right but I think a 1% resistance... enough to convince an English player to put a small garrison in Acadia but be good enough. We can't just let them go scot free with a province without the chance of dissentv which did exist, no matter how minisicule. Besides, most of the resistance wouldn't come from the Acadians but from the fierce and efficient Abenaki who had been swon enemies of England and allies of the French for over a century. There's no real point in an Acadian culture, the only culture plan that's needed is a change from French to English cultures. AGCEEEP shouldn't go willy nilly with cultures just because you can

unmerged(17856) · Aug 23, 2006

Semi-Lobster said:
You're right but I think a 1% resistance... enough to convince an English player to put a small garrison in Acadia but be good enough. We can't just let them go scot free with a province without the chance of dissentv which did exist, no matter how minisicule. Besides, most of the resistance wouldn't come from the Acadians but from the fierce and efficient Abenaki who had been swon enemies of England and allies of the French for over a century. There's no real point in an Acadian culture, the only culture plan that's needed is a change from French to English cultures. AGCEEEP shouldn't go willy nilly with cultures just because you can

True, the French culture will be just as effective as Acadian AFA ENG is concerned. I've always liked the old controversial idea of implementing colonial cultures for NA.

unmerged(17856) · Aug 23, 2006

At any rate, why would the Abenaki merit revoltrisk? Were they really that numerous that they would pose a possible EU2-caliber revolt?

If we expect Acadia to be French cultured when ENG comes to own it, what more than a culture penalty does the province merit?

Semi-Lobster · Aug 23, 2006

ribbon22 said:
At any rate, why would the Abenaki merit revoltrisk? Were they really that numerous that they would pose a possible EU2-caliber revolt?

If we expect Acadia to be French cultured when ENG comes to own it, what more than a culture penalty does the province merit?

If you don't know about the ferocity of the Abenaki or how much they scared the crap out of the soldiers of New England then I suggest you read up on Baron Jean-Vincent d'Abbadie de Saint-Castin here: http://www.biographi.ca/EN/ShowBio.asp?BioId=34715&query=

As for the culture, that's the entire point of the expulsion events, The French Acadians are expelled out of Acadia and end up in tons of different places all over Europe and North America and the inhabitants are replaced by 'English' (actually mostly Germans, Huguenot French and some English, the Scots ironically would not come to Nova Scotia until the the highland and lowland clearances in the 19th century)

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