Cold War Extension for AoD

[DanomitePrime]

Soo, crazy thought, now that some of us have figured out how to get AoD running with the DH map, is there any chance of putting out a version of Coldwar extension for AoD with the DH map?
We would have to make a scenario file, ai files, and updating the events for it, which needless to say will take quite abit of time.

Maybe it would be possible to include it the same way you are including your ww1 scenario (which btw, will be a ton better on this map!!!!)
I would be willing to help make it possible, and pretty sure I could gather up a few others to help migrate somethings over.

It would be simply put, as good as HoI will ever get if thats the case


EDIT:
As far as making sure were not distributing someone else's work, if we make a installer, just have it check for a DH folder (that one had purchased and supported the makers of the map in the first place) to copy files from there, and that problem should be done.

 

[T.j. Arnold]

God, if you got this to work in Darkest Hour, I would literally have no life.

 

[iceHawk]

Soo, crazy thought, now that some of us have figured out how to get AoD running with the DH map, is there any chance of putting out a version of Coldwar extension for AoD with the DH map?
We would have to make a scenario file, ai files, and updating the events for it, which needless to say will take quite abit of time.

Maybe it would be possible to include it the same way you are including your ww1 scenario (which btw, will be a ton better on this map!!!!)
I would be willing to help make it possible, and pretty sure I could gather up a few others to help migrate somethings over.

It would be simply put, as good as HoI will ever get if thats the case


EDIT:
As far as making sure were not distributing someone else's work, if we make a installer, just have it check for a DH folder (that one had purchased and supported the makers of the map in the first place) to copy files from there, and that problem should be done.

That indeed is beginning to sound tempting The E3 map is coming along & the guys over at the DH-AOD map conversion thread are working on an Alpha release already! I cant see why, if this work continues at its pace we wont see CWE AOD running on a DH/E3 map this year. If sufficient help is mustered by u guys, possibly even sooner!

Were finishing up work on 0.19 CWE release, but if nomonhan agrees work on this could start within a version or two.
Fingers crossed

 

[DeathFromBelow]

Were finishing up work on 0.19 CWE release, but if nomonhan agrees work on this could start within a version or two.
Fingers crossed

That would be awesome. AoD engine + DH map + CWE sounds like the best version of HoI2 ever.

If you list out all the things that need to get done for the map change to happen I'm sure you'll get a few volunteers to split up the tedious text edits (myself included).

 

[iceHawk]

1919 OOB Version 2 80% done + GFX

That would be awesome. AoD engine + DH map + CWE sounds like the best version of HoI2 ever.

I know!!! Lets see what develops over the next few weeks in this regard. Check back soon & in the meantime Id suggest helping out DH Map converters & the E3 team!

----1919 OOB Ver 2----
http://www.mediafire.com/?79zg2g5c3ng67a2

Posting it here anyways as I promised it by Sunday. Turkey(Ottomans), Japan, German Empire, Austro-Hungary & France are 100% done. As mentioned above, simply copy & paste over their current OOB list. I will finish up UK & USA in next 48 hrs prob.

Notes:
1. For Ger, AH & France the Corps locations & divisional lists are more random than historical. Divisional names & numbers are however as good as gold Corps swapped their numerous divisions throughout late 1918 period, & trying to organize that would simply be suicidal.
1.1 German empire deployed for now along their historical 1936 border. Feel free to adjust their starting positions depending on how much land GER receives. Can be left alone for now np anyhow.
1.2 Austro-Hungarian empire as well. AH Corps are relatively within austrian/hungarian/czechoslovakian/serbian borders for now. Feel free to move them around to adjust their position relative to actual borders.
2. Ottoman Empire(TUR) & Japan are quite close to historical parity. Their smaller armies make them easier to organize & find data on.
2.1. Ottoman Empire(TUR) has units southern units deployed along Lebanon, Syria & central Iraq. Wasnt sure what they kept in Cold War 1919 scenario in terms of Palestine or Jordan.
3. Italy & Sov Union not done as Nomonhan mentioned finishing Italy himself. Sov Union needs to be completed alongside White russia & @ current release I dont have enough information on province control & what event are used. Nevertheless earlier TOE had their divisional lists. Hopefully nomonhan can complete himself. Shouldn't be too difficult.
4. All units currently set @ 100% organization unless specifically mentioned. For realism in the 1919 scenario they should have their starting strength lowered to between 70-90% on average. Except non-combatant nations & USA.
6. Realistic wise, all airbases should have their strength lowered to 1-2 from any larger amount. This to realistically simulate the begging or airpower creation (there were next to no aerodromes). Same with AA guns & French, Italian fortifications.
7. Smaller nations can be for now moded with simple deletion of airunits & downgrading any naval/land units to starting model 0 for now. Ill focus on writing up smaller 1919 national TOEs aft finishing UK & USA.



###Graphical follow-up###
Generic illustration graphics for 1960+. Kept them in color as I gather that cold war should be less monochrome than the earlier part of XX century. Military fans will also notice on the bottom of graphics that light tank divisions are making an appearance After generics, just like model pics - I will break them down first by east/west, & later country specific.

available here: http://www.mediafire.com/?8j4hwji9fjrebsy

 

[Tankist/45]

I'm looking forward to Cold War part

 

[bestmajor]

nice pics. as for the OOBs i found a few typos.

AH:

name = "9. Torpedobootflottillen"

should be Torpedobootsflottille (with a s in the middle and without the n which indicates plural)

Kaiserschutzen

Landesschutzen

both times Kaiserschützen or Landesschützen

"Lancer" isnt german (could be "Lanzierer" http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanzierer )

Infantriedivision

it is infanterie just like in germany - PI uses this for AUS inf, though.

GER:

1. Garde-Infanterie-Division

should be 1. Gardedivision or 1. Garde-Division http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/2._Garde-Division_%28Deutsches_Kaiserreich%29

"I. Koniglich Bayerische Armee-Korps"

just grammatically should be "I. Königlich Bayerisches Armeekorps" (or Armee-Korps)

"I. Reserve Koniglich Bayerische Armee-Korps"

maybe "I. Königlich Bayerisches Reserve Armeekorps" (or even "Reservearmeekorps")

name = "Th￾Eingen"

should be (SMS) Thüringen?

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Thüringen

"Friedrich der Grosse"

maybe "Friedrich der Große"

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Friedrich_der_Große_(1911)

"Lubeck"

"Munchen"

both times u -> ü

"Grosser Kurf￾Est"

(SMS) "Großer Kurfürst" http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Gro%C3%9Fer_Kurf%C3%BCrst_%281913%29

"Kaiser Wilhelm Der Grosse"

(SMS) "Kaiser Wilhelm der Große" http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Kaiser_Wilhelm_der_Gro%C3%9Fe
similar (SMS)

"Kaiser Karl Der Große"

Torpedobootflottille"

Torpedobootsflottille

"Preussen"

Preußen http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Preu%C3%9Fen_%281903%29

"Lutzow"

Lützow

"F￾Est Bismarck"

Fürst Bismarck http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_F%C3%BCrst_Bismarck
i think you had an accident while copying the "ü"

"N￾Enberg"

Nürnberg

 

[T.j. Arnold]

Question: Now that Darkest Hour is out, will you folks be incorporating any of their ideas/files for your WWI scenario. It seems like it would save you guys a LOT of work.

 

[iceHawk]

Re bestmajor
Thanks for the Orbat check-up. Most of the grammar errors were likely due to google translate/notepad clipping problems.

Re T.j. Arnold
Well see whats available to work with. Smaller national orbats & map for starters

Illustrations Pt2, Ground + Airforces

#Where possible, especially in regards to interceptors and multi-role fighters, images of western and eastern most utilized fighters are displayed together. Many non-aligned countries (Pakistan/India/Iraq/Egypt/Lybia etc etc) purchased WP & NATO jet aircraft to please both sides. Also covers graphically whichever side smaller nations choose to side with as well
#Naval Forces next

Grab it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?61txbsw5q511o3c

 

[Zzzzz...]

Love how they are coloured. Suits better on that timeframe

 

[Sid Meier]

1936 Scenario for AoD-DH map mod almost ready, the hard part is getting CWE to work ontop of it.

Do you guys change AI files?

Or change around and redistribute Infrastructure, IC or Resources?

 

[iceHawk]

1936 Scenario for AoD-DH map mod almost ready, the hard part is getting CWE to work ontop of it.

Do you guys change AI files?

Or change around and redistribute Infrastructure, IC or Resources?

AI changes - I am unsure of; nomonhan needs to be consulted. Infrastructure/IC likely little if any, however there are over a 1000 events regarding new resource (coal/naturalgas/oil/metals) That need to be adjusted. So I gather that simply events/events_vl folders & everything contained within. Nomonhan will give more instructions although waiting for a clean 0.19 CWE might help out with confusion & doubling the workload?

 

[Sid Meier]

Sounds like a plan.

 

[Narnyay]

***EDIT***

There is a crash to desktop possibility with the 10th Jan 1946 China Ceasefire event!

i got a crash on that date, is there a fix available for that?

 

[T.j. Arnold]

i got a crash on that date, is there a fix available for that?

Normally for these kind of bugs, just:

1) Save a day before crash
2) Exit scenario
3) Choose the save you just created
4) Choose a different nation
5) Load
6) Play until the day AFTER the event sparks
7) Save
8) Reload

 

[Narnyay]

oh thanks that worked

 

[iceHawk]

Full Generic Illustrations Complete

nomonhan has been away due to isp problems. In the meantime towards 0.19 release here is the full graphical unit roster. lt tanks, gunship helicopters, SRBM brigades, & even secret 1950s aircraft carrier submarines?!?!

All brigades

AF addendum + navy

Only thing that needs to be changed is the brigade numbers for attack helicopters. The brigade tech is u10 but im unsure as to what that means graphically. For example u1 (LCAG) has brig # 16 but u10??


Together with previous pt1 ground forces & pt2 airforce. Now the complete unit roster should feature technically representative illustrations. Grab it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?a277w3abg3ryefz

 

[T.j. Arnold]

"1950s aircraft carrier submarines"?
lulwut?

Launching jets from underwater doesn't seem all to feasible.

 

[iceHawk]

"1950s aircraft carrier submarines"?
lulwut?

Launching jets from underwater doesn't seem all to feasible.

Actually you'd be surprised. Heavy submarine design suffered in the 1930s due to Washington & London naval treaties, however most major powers toyed with the idea of a gun cruiser or small carrier submarine designs. With the advent of the jet age, numerous ideas were tested out, form Jet flying boat fighters/bombers to VTOL desings etc. 50s were a crazy time from the engineering perspective. In the middle of it all were ideas for either amphibious assault submarines or jet equipped submersible aircraft carriers?!
Soviet Projects 621, 664, 748

http://silentseawolvesmsw.devhub.com/blog/463977-russian-submarines-the-first-soviet-giants/
US Boeing AN-1, AN-2, Sub project 1963.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3979.0/all.html

Mind you the idea is also making a comeback these days. R&D is being conducted on a Ohio SSBN conversion to a UCAV submersible aircraft carrier variant.

http://www.gizmag.com/go/5372/

 

[bandkanon]

11000% Concentration Affect Blowing up IC

Hi,

Great Mod and thanks for all the hard work. I am greatly looking forward to 0.19.

I do want to report a possible bug. I am on 1.07 and I think that broke my current game. Every nation's IC has blown up to 10000+ IC, mainly due to something called "concentration effect" which I have never seen before. Is this something that is due to incompatibility between 1.07 and CWE? Has anyone else seen this? Its totally ruining my game.