Coalitions don't seem to be working well in 1.33

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iMonstrosity

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I've noticed in my games where coalitions aren't declaring even if they have 3x+ more troops and would annihilate me. I've also noticed MANY times the coalition calculations of whether to join/leave doesn't work unless the game is closed and reopened. This is kind of close to game breaking IMO as you have little to worry about...

Anyone else experiencing this?
 
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Yeah, I've noticed this as well. They have to be absurdly more powerful than you to actually declare on you. They still exist as a defensive coalition I suppose, so they're not completely useless
 

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Most of these issues relate to the batch processing that occurs at certain times a month. Not sure that anything can be done about it without completely bogging the game down.

I have had coalitions declare on me, but it has been pretty rare of late. It certainly seems to be searching for a moment of weakness. They backstab if I'm fighting elsewhere or zero'ed out on manpower.

Beyond that, I think some of this might relate to the HRE in/out issue. I'm playing as Popeman right now, Popeman is in the HRE and allied to Austria. The coalition that keeps forming and then dissolving includes France and most of the south of the HRE save Switzerland and Austria (my allies) -- and I definitely deserve to be crushed by the coalition. It would be about 200k troops against 100k troops.

I think that because France is outside the HRE and I'm in the HRE, if the coalition fires and because Austria would honor the call, it calculates whether to DOW by taking into account all of Austria's allies too, just as if France attacked me outside of the context of a coalition.
 

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Yep, I was just sitting on a massive coalition with about every single HRE opm, France, and Austria. I had 50k troops they had about 300k, No Dow.
 
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Most of these issues relate to the batch processing that occurs at certain times a month. Not sure that anything can be done about it without completely bogging the game down.

I have had coalitions declare on me, but it has been pretty rare of late. It certainly seems to be searching for a moment of weakness. They backstab if I'm fighting elsewhere or zero'ed out on manpower.

Beyond that, I think some of this might relate to the HRE in/out issue. I'm playing as Popeman right now, Popeman is in the HRE and allied to Austria. The coalition that keeps forming and then dissolving includes France and most of the south of the HRE save Switzerland and Austria (my allies) -- and I definitely deserve to be crushed by the coalition. It would be about 200k troops against 100k troops.

I think that because France is outside the HRE and I'm in the HRE, if the coalition fires and because Austria would honor the call, it calculates whether to DOW by taking into account all of Austria's allies too, just as if France attacked me outside of the context of a coalition.
You being pope will also effect it, as everyone wants to keep withrelations with pope and use curia abilities
 
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I think it might depend on the strength of the coalition leader and their allies. I had a coalition basically suicide into me as they declared on me while I was in another war I was wrapping up. Maybe 150K coalition troops vs my 300K.
 

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Just had a coalition declare on me, in 1.33.
They had around ~400k to my ~100k. Ottomans broke their alliance with me, and thats when the coalition declared.

Maybe 4:1 strength is the norm? Don't forget to count your allies into the strength as well