CN not forming in yucatan? What did I do wrong?

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I haven't played since around conquest DLC so pardon in advance for being rusty on mechanics

I cored 5 provinces that I had recently conquered assuming that a CN would form, a Mexico or some such, but it never happened, even after waiting for a one month tick just to be safe.

This is 1.8.1, none of the provinces are my culture, only two are state religion, and of note also this area is split between Mexico and Panama trade node. All the same region in region map though. I have no traditional colonies in the mexican area either.

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So I thought I could just barge in, conquer and core and then a CN would form, but that's not happening so I'm wondering what did I do wrong?
 

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Actually that's diplomatic map mode, and those two provinces are the ones that aren't cored, not occupied.

I am at war with someone in europe though... but I don't think that ever stopped a CN from forming, or does it?
 

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Actually that's diplomatic map mode, and those two provinces are the ones that aren't cored, not occupied.

I am at war with someone in europe though... but I don't think that ever stopped a CN from forming, or does it?
These are conquered lands, right? Do you have at least one finished colony in this colonial region?
 

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First of all: You want to look at Colonial Region map mode, and this is distinct from regions. Second of all, your map still looks okay as all of those are in "Colonial Mexico." I see nothing obviously wrong.

These are conquered lands, right? Do you have at least one finished colony in this colonial region?

Is this a new change? I don't remember this being a requirement before, just the cores.
 

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First of all: You want to look at Colonial Region map mode, and this is distinct from regions. Second of all, your map still looks okay as all of those are in "Colonial Mexico." I see nothing obviously wrong.



Is this a new change? I don't remember this being a requirement before, just the cores.
I am not sure. That's why I want to confirm this.
 

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I am not sure. That's why I want to confirm this.
Nope, not a single regular colony in the mexico region as indicated in my OP. Was feeling kind of Cortezy...

I checked the wiki beforehand, and this is what it has to say on the matter:

http://www.eu4wiki.com/Colonial_nations#Formation_of_colonial_nations
Colonial nations form if 5 cored overseas provinces exist in a single colonial region.

There's a big rebellion risk though, would that stop it?
 

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Give it a month. WHen i finish the 5th colony you have to wait a month for the formation of the colonial country.
I'm really sure I did give it a month, but who knows I might of been distracted.

In any case the CN formed the third day following the month tick along with a big rebellion.

So all is good. Thanks for the input everyone