Client States vs Vassals

[volseraph]

I had thought Client States differed from vassals—specifically, that they didn't take up a relations slot and couldn't be designated a march, but you were limited to 10 client states. Neither of the first two appear to be the case. Is that intentional, or should client states behave a little differently to vassals?

 

[IIWW]

They shouldn't take relation slot, for sure they didn't took mine (although RM with them takes one). I don't know about the marches thing, haven't tried it.

 

[Novacat]

They shouldn't take relation slot, for sure they didn't took mine (although RM with them takes one). I don't know about the marches thing, haven't tried it.

Did you create a client state in the HRE with you as emperor and erbkaisertum passed?

 

[IIWW]

I have, but I have also created them outside of it, and they didn't took slot. Also, it's propably "revoke the privilegia" that You're thinking about

 

[Denkt]

You can give provinces to client states which they have to accept.

 

[exenter]

Can you diplo annex client states?

 

[IIWW]

Can you diplo annex client states?

I got some bug with it, first I had to sell them provinces. But aside from that, You can.

 

[Incompetent]

Also, it's propably "revoke the privilegia" that You're thinking about

Erbkaisertum is the reform that means the Emperor can have HRE vassals that don't take up a diplo slot, or at least it was as of 1.7.

Unless you plan to pass Renovatio Imperii, the best approach is to pass 'Revoke the Privilegia' in order to vassalise everyone, then immediately 'concede' this reform in a war. That way you keep all the HRE states as vassals, they still don't use up relations slots, but you don't have to suffer the diprep penalty that comes with 'Revoke the Privilegia'.

 

[IIWW]

Erbkaisertum is the reform that means the Emperor can have HRE vassals that don't take up a diplo slot, or at least it was as of 1.7.

Unless you plan to pass Renovatio Imperii, the best approach is to pass 'Revoke the Privilegia' in order to vassalise everyone, then immediately 'concede' this reform in a war. That way you keep all the HRE states as vassals, they still don't use up relations slots, but you don't have to suffer the diprep penalty that comes with 'Revoke the Privilegia'.

Oh, my bad. Thats actually quite useful knowledge.

 

[volseraph]

So basically, client states are just vassals you can give provinces to?