Client States. Did you ever make one? What did you think?

[Umbosch]

I have never make CS. I have not the tech level in the moment. I ask me, when i have vasall or a conquered nation can i make him later to a CS at other positon (resettlement)? For example i play as Huron and need Iroquois not as mark at my center but in the Mexico Area. Work it? Must the culture of this nation exists? Or is a CS only a small copy of my own culture and NIs?

 

[Pilot00]

So if I understand it, its only use is to feed it land that for whatever reason a vassal wont accept?

Do they produce armies to help you and whatnot?

 

[CaptainChiatrol]

So if I understand it, its only use is to feed it land that for whatever reason a vassal wont accept?

Do they produce armies to help you and whatnot?

Vassals do. I think part of the problem with them may be how bugged vassal income is.

 

[Autoclave]

You use them in homogenous areas in which potential vassals have lost their cores. That's why it doesn't need to come earlier than the diplo tech that grants it, because you're able to use those potential vassals up to that point.

It effectively lets you create a duplicate nation in which you conquer it's clone. Create a Sunni Turkish client, then destroy the Ottomans by granting all their provinces to your client.

This. You don't always have the opportunity to form a vassal out of conquered lands. Client state allows you to ignore this. You don't need to core anything, just give that land to the client state.

 

[Mztr44]

I think the purpose of client states is for late game when a lot of prior nation cores have disappeared. They don't get generic ideas, they have a unique client state idea set which includes reduced coring cost. I think one of the more interesting things you can do is create a client state in the HRE that becomes a member. I did this in a recent Switzerland game and released a large client state and tried to get it elected emperor just for fun.

 

[Immortal88]

Do you pay the usual vassal annex cost if you want to reintegrate them into your nation?

 

[Ricox]

I love client states just for the roleplay aspect. As France, I didn't want to just conquer half of Europe, so instead I gave half off Europe to client states (a client state in Spain, a client state in Italy, a client state in HRE and I'm happy with strong vassals on my sides in case I get too lazy to send my own troops).

Plus, they share your dynasty, you can name the country and assign it a flag. The options are limited, so I am very eagerly awaiting a further FREE patch to massively increase the customization, but I like what's been given. I've always been waiting for an option to make your own vassals.

Do you pay the usual vassal annex cost if you want to reintegrate them into your nation?

Yes.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Probably their best use is to culture convert areas with +coring cost; they pay that huge cost up front, culture convert which causes the cores to disappear after 50 years, then you annex them at normal price.

Coupled with ADM efficiency, a few client states and the imperialism CB can massacre land in the late game, fronting what is effectively 1000's of war score at the start of the game without any one nation going over 100% OE. They're nothing more than fabricated vassals with a bit of extra loyalty and a weak (but not useless) -10% core cost discount, though their -2 unrest is nice. What's their historic idea set? Ideally they'd have administrative and religious plus a few military groups.