clergy disaster as papal state. how do i solve it?

[diLuca]

so i manged to get that disaster as papal state just to find out afterwards that the clergy doesn't have land to take away from them to stop the disaster with lowered influence.

so what can i do? its like 20 years now and not a single clergy event. all "influence"-events i had have been all about burghers or nobility. i guess the reason for this is because the clergy land-control is set to 0% for the papal state? i saw no reason to give em land when i started the game since they did not want any...

 

[Viktor Vaughn]

they should start the campaign with some provinces. had you taken that away from them prior to the disaster?

 

[diLuca]

i don't think so that i started with clergy estate land and they never asked for any, never had an alert and the 0% land in the estate screen is not red colour

 

[heliostellar]

You will have to wait for some of the influence effects to wear off. Mouseover the influence percentage to see when they expire. It is entirely possible to be over 80% even when they hold no land.

 

[diLuca]

yeah, it was an influence effect right now that wore off, recruit minister was reset which i hired years ago and i finally dropped beneath 60% influence.

gotta admit this was the first time in the last year i played that i had such problems with a disaster. well at least the word disaster fitted to its name in this special case heheh.

i felt kinda trolled by paradox having the clergy as a disaster in power...its the papal state after all, heh.

 

[Viktor Vaughn]

yeah they start with a +30% influence, so even though it seems counterintuitive, it's easier for them to revolt in papal states than many other countries especially when you do things like recruit ministers (which tbh you really shouldn't need to do as papal state but whatever lol)

 

[diLuca]

i just can't say no to level 3 ministers for half the price, and yeah, the most sacred country in the whole eu4 world has the nastiest priests, go figure.

just took another minister and seeked support by clergy. 65% influence again, but this time i learned heh. papal state and clergy is a huge trap in this game when you're used to revoke land the moment a disaster is about to come

 

[makaramus]

wait... what happens if disaster fire? do papal state... lose papacy? what?
if so let it fire lol you can be empire this way

edit:Checked goverment doesnt change XD

 

[macd21]

It makes sense. It’s the papal state

yeah, it was an influence effect right now that wore off, recruit minister was reset which i hired years ago and i finally dropped beneath 60% influence.

gotta admit this was the first time in the last year i played that i had such problems with a disaster. well at least the word disaster fitted to its name in this special case heheh.

i felt kinda trolled by paradox having the clergy as a disaster in power...its the papal state after all, heh.

It’s exactly because it’s the papal state that the risk is higher. They have a huge amount of power in the country, holding positions that would be held by the nobility in a kingdom. So the Pope has to be careful and keep them in line, or they’ll turn him into a figurehead.