cleanse planet as pacifist

[Omnium]

Am I the only one to who find it to be at least a little weird that, as a pacifist, you cannot ask your ennemy to cede you a planet (that would be way to harsh, were not bloody imperialists here) but you can make them juste cleanse theirs planets of all life?

I understand that pacifism doesnt mean xenophile but then again it feels wrong somehow.

In the very case that you play a pacifist xenophobe for the sweet sweet unity boost, I found that this help you too much. You cannot get planets nor liberate them because the will be pacifist/xenophobe themselves and are gonna hate you from the start and thus you'll not be able to vassalize them in any way. BUT you can juste force cleanse all the galaxy and then leave justs one-system empires as you colonize their freshly purged worlds... Sure, people hate you but then again, with all the unity bonus, if someone else hasn't take an immense advance over u, worth it.

So anyway, it was a great option but feels broken a bit since the goal of 1.5 toward pacifist seemed to be more about hardlocking pacifist into, well, pacifism.

 

[arctvrvs]

Am I the only one to who find it to be at least a little weird that, as a pacifist, you cannot ask your ennemy to cede you a planet (that would be way to harsh, were not bloody imperialists here) but you can make them juste cleanse theirs planets of all life?

I understand that pacifism doesnt mean xenophile but then again it feels wrong somehow.

In the very case that you play a pacifist xenophobe for the sweet sweet unity boost, I found that this help you too much. You cannot get planets nor liberate them because the will be pacifist/xenophobe themselves and are gonna hate you from the start and thus you'll not be able to vassalize them in any way. BUT you can juste force cleanse all the galaxy and then leave justs one-system empires as you colonize their freshly purged worlds... Sure, people hate you but then again, with all the unity bonus, if someone else hasn't take an immense advance over u, worth it.

So anyway, it was a great option but feels broken a bit since the goal of 1.5 toward pacifist seemed to be more about hardlocking pacifist into, well, pacifism.

yep ethos need some more work.
I was trying to discuss it here but didn't interest many
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/discussion-on-ethos.1012806/#post-22661888

 

[Dementor4]

Am I the only one to who find it to be at least a little weird that, as a pacifist, you cannot ask your ennemy to cede you a planet (that would be way to harsh, were not bloody imperialists here) but you can make them juste cleanse theirs planets of all life?

Maybe you're environmentalists. Anyone colonizing planets are invasive species by definition and inherently bad for those environments. Your own people are, of course, exceptions. You know, because unlike everyone else you live in perfect harmony with nature. 97% of scientists agree; the science is settled.

EDIT: Thinking about it, I kind of wonder why "environmentalist" and "Industrialist" aren't available as ethics.