Clarification requested on "Flavor packs"

[User29]

Am I to understand that flavor packs offered in the expansion pass are not game mechanic dlc but art dlc? So portraits and clothes and stuff?

So by buying the royal edition I'm getting 2 art dlcs and one mechanics dlc?

I am sorry if I missed it in the FAQ I didn't see it explicitly stated

 

[Black Turtle]

They will be region focused dlcs like immersion packs for EU4.

 

[User29]

They will be region focused dlcs like immersion packs for EU4.

So like the Russia or britannia expac? the wording of it definitely made me think eu4 flavor pack rather than cosmetic which is what made me ask on the forum

 

[Black Turtle]

So like the Russia or britannia expac? the wording of it definitely made me think eu4 flavor pack rather than cosmetic which is what made me ask on the forum

No, cosmetic are clothing now.

 

[User29]

No, cosmetic are clothing now.

I don't understand this response, I'm making sure I understand you right that you said region focused like the britain and russia expacs of eu4 which were gmaeplay mechanic focused and not cosmetic

 

[Morrowind3]

I don't understand this response, I'm making sure I understand you right that you said region focused like the britain and russia expacs of eu4 which were gmaeplay mechanic focused and not cosmetic

The new 3D characters leave little room for "Portrait" dlc, and since the royal edition already comes with an explicitly named clothing pack, the chance of the flavour packs being cosmetic is quite low, is what I think he means to imply.

So yes, conjecture favours small regional gameplay DLC, which in EU4's immersion packs meant extra events, some minor mechanics and a major mechanic that also applies to cultures outside the DLC's main focus

 

[User29]

The new 3D characters leave little room for "Portrait" dlc, and since the royal edition already comes with an explicitly named clothing pack, the chance of the flavour packs being cosmetic is quite low, is what I think he means to imply.

So yes, conjecture favours small regional gameplay DLC, which in EU4's immersion packs meant extra events, some minor mechanics and a major mechanic that also applies to cultures outside the DLC's main focus

That makes the royal edition a hell of a lot more interesting to me, thanks for the info

 

[Pied-Noir]

I don't know what will be in them, but it does seem like CK III is going to follow the HoI IV style of DLC, and I think this has even been confirmed somewhere. Don't expect endless little cosmetic DLC packs ala CK II, but an annual full-size expansion and the occasional smaller flavor pack.

 

[User29]

I don't know what will be in them, but it does seem like CK III is going to follow the HoI IV style of DLC, and I think this has even been confirmed somewhere. Don't expect endless little cosmetic DLC packs ala CK II, but an annual full-size expansion and the occasional smaller flavor pack.

Hoi 4 has had such a crazy slow development cycle compared to EU4, I hope ck3 gets more attention than that

 

[Pied-Noir]

Hoi 4 has had such a crazy slow development cycle compared to EU4, I hope ck3 gets more attention than that

Yeah, but look at some of the absolute garbage being churned out for EU4.

 

[Cyhort]

Yeah, but look at some of the absolute garbage being churned out for EU4.

Let's just hope we don't get an expansion that breaks the game a week before the dev team goes on a month long vacation

 

[User29]

Yeah, but look at some of the absolute garbage being churned out for EU4.

other than Golden century and conquest of paradise I like all the dlc they've made. Dharma and Emperor are great, even with the bugs they've made me sink 50+ more hours in the game

 

[Karlington]

The Royal Edition includes two flavor packs and one major expansion, and Paradox defines those as:

• Flavor Packs – SRP $6.99: in-game content focused on a theme or a region.
• Major Expansions – SRP $29.99: larger, meatier expansions with content and mechanics to expand and enrich your experience.

(Source)

 

[cybrxkhan]

I think Stellaris, despite not being a historical themed game, is a better frame of reference for what we could expect for a relatively successful model of one major DLC and smaller minor DLCs (yes there were some releases with issues like Megacorp, but I'd argue these were less due to the model and more due to the quality of the DLC or free patch itself). There are big expansions like Utopia, Apocalypse, etc. that add in new mechanics and a huge amount of new events and flavor in both the DLC and the accompanying free patch that substantially changes how the game plays. Then, there are smaller flavor DLCs - called story packs - like Leviathans, Synthetic Dawn, etc. that add mechanics and events that add a more limited scope of flavor to the game. Additionally, in Stellaris, the free patches are often substantial reworkings of the game that would have been included in a DLC elsewhere, so I don't expect to see the EUIV issue where it's a frankensteinian mess of features tacked onto random DLC that make the game very different if you have the DLC vs if you don't.

So, ideally, CK3 will follow a similar model as Stellaris.

 

[User29]

The Royal Edition includes two flavor packs and one major expansion, and Paradox defines those as:

• Flavor Packs – SRP $6.99: in-game content focused on a theme or a region.
• Major Expansions – SRP $29.99: larger, meatier expansions with content and mechanics to expand and enrich your experience.

(Source)

No offense but I obviously read the store page, I wanted to know what "in-game content focused on a theme or region" meant practically, it's just vague enough to make me think it could be cosmetic, especially considering things like Lithoid pack and such for Stellaris are 7.99

I think Stellaris, despite not being a historical themed game, is a better frame of reference for what we could expect for a relatively successful model of one major DLC and smaller minor DLCs (yes there were some releases with issues like Megacorp, but I'd argue these were less due to the model and more due to the quality of the DLC or free patch itself). There are big expansions like Utopia, Apocalypse, etc. that add in new mechanics and a huge amount of new events and flavor in both the DLC and the accompanying free patch that substantially changes how the game plays. Then, there are smaller flavor DLCs - called story packs - like Leviathans, Synthetic Dawn, etc. that add mechanics and events that add a more limited scope of flavor to the game. Additionally, in Stellaris, the free patches are often substantial reworkings of the game that would have been included in a DLC elsewhere, so I don't expect to see the EUIV issue where it's a frankensteinian mess of features tacked onto random DLC that make the game very different if you have the DLC vs if you don't.

So, ideally, CK3 will follow a similar model as Stellaris.

omg it's the man the myth the legend, I hope I see your modding skills put back to the grindstone with ck3, miss VIET a ton, cheers mate!

 

[Atalvyr]

In Imperator "flavor packs" typically add some missions, events and some unit models to a specific region or cultural sphere. Often also some minor mechanics that are especially connected to that area/culture.

In CK3 terms, I expect they will add events, unit models and a couple of decisions/mechanics that help flesh out a certain culture or government type.

 

[Karlington]

No offense but I obviously read the store page, I wanted to know what "in-game content focused on a theme or region" meant practically, it's just vague enough to make me think it could be cosmetic, especially considering things like Lithoid pack and such for Stellaris are 7.99

That information isn't even on the store page, but ok.

 

[User29]

That information isn't even on the store page, but ok.

aye but it is in the FAQ I was hoping someone who peruses the ck3 forum a bunch might know of a dev saying what that means specifically

 

[PillowWillow]

From what I've read and heard CKIII is indeed taking a page out of specifically Stellaris' DLC model.

 

[Karlington]

From what I've read and heard

Can you link us?