Claims reduce coring cost by 50%
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Not really; there's a minimum floor of cost per base tax on coring anyways, and Ottomans and Hordes and whoever else gets core creation cost reductions (Muscovy, Emperor, etc.) can hit it without jumping through too many hoops anyways.
But not every single province is actually overseas.
@Freudia: What is the cap atm ? I doubt that you can reach it w/o being emperor which currently is not possible as sunni/orthodox nation until the religious wars are over if im not mistaken.
Ottoman coring was practically free anyway, to the point where I didn't even bother fabricating claims on anything but the most expensive provinces, as I can't conquer stuff fast enough to use all my admin points anyway.
The claim reduction by 50% seems to be an oversight. Haven't had time to check if it's just a tooltip error.
As far as distant overseas, the patch notes are misstating what's actually going on. It's not a 50% reduction in coring cost for distant overseas. It's a 50% reduction in base tax for coring calculations.
For example, a normal 4BT province would normally cost 80ADM to core: 4BT * 20ADM/BT. With a claim, that would reduce by 25%: 80ADM - (80ADM*0.25); with claim + Adaptability, that would reduce by 50%: 80ADM-(80ADM*0.5), because reductions are additive. Additive bonuses are why it was theoretically possible to get negative coring cost. As an aside, this is why games like EVE Online use multiplicative bonuses for such things.
With the new patch, a distant overseas province's base tax is reduced by 50% in the coring cost calculation. For example, a 4BT distant overseas province becomes a 2BT province for coring purposes.
This is also a stealth nerf to the Administrative idea group for Europeans expanding in Africa and Asia. Its second idea, Adaptability, would ordinarily justify taking the entire idea group, because it would pay for itself after coring 80 base tax -- 400ADM/(5ADM/BT Cored); with this change, it takes 160 in distant overseas base tax for Adaptability to pay for itself. For comparison, the India region has about 450BT.
I don't like this setup, it too readily encourages pre-coring a ton of distant overseas stuff and connecting it, which feels awkward.
Hmm, so basically, Ottomans can make Persia and Egypt into vassals and core all of Africa and Asia for 2 ADM/BT after taking Adaptability?
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Heh, that's a pretty good point. So ... that's the workhorse exploit for 1.9, I guess!
!.9.1 maybe. With 50% off with claims it's hard to care enough right now lol.
Do these stack? If I'm the Ottomans, take the levant mission and get Jerusalem so I can take the Egypt mission, but leave Mamluks with Dulkadir, Aleppo, and Antioch (or some other border making them distant overseas) do I get -100% without any of my other bonuses resulting in the 2/base tax min coring cost?
Edit: I suppose that would be the same for the India missions, but it's not as easy to hook them back up after coring.
Edit: I suppose that would be the same for the India missions, but it's not as easy to hook them back up after coring.
Yeah. Makes Influence and Espionage slightly more attractive, though. Stealth buffs?
It's a bug.
They added a new line in Defines.lua, CORE_COLONY = 0.5, for coring cost reduction from colony. However they attached that to claims while the old CORE_HAD_CLAIM = 0.25 was attached to colonies.
So claims are reducing coring cost by 50% while same-continent colony coring cost is reduced by 25%.
They added a new line in Defines.lua, CORE_COLONY = 0.5, for coring cost reduction from colony. However they attached that to claims while the old CORE_HAD_CLAIM = 0.25 was attached to colonies.
So claims are reducing coring cost by 50% while same-continent colony coring cost is reduced by 25%.
Nah. It's only a bug after it's been fixed. Right now it's a "feature".