Claiming Thrones & Personal Unions in HTTT

[TheLoneGunman]

I'm just wondering what exactly the deal is with these options, since I would like to try my hand at being a cunning diplomat and peacefully seizing power from other nations or even getting such power over them militarily instead of outright annexing everything in sight.

I've arranged royal marriages with nations that have no heir or a weak claim and then I've made my own claim to their throne, but usually after a few months to a year I lose my casus belli if I fail to declare war.

If I DO declare war and conquer the kingdom, the option for forming a personal union is always grayed out.

I played EU3 when it first came out, and never got my feet wet with NA or IN. So my time here in HTTT is my first in a long while.

Am I doing something wrong?

Would I be ok reading a guide for IN or is HTTT's new system far too different?

A strategy guide is desperately needed on my part for this game now.

Muchos gracias to any who can give me a little bit of advice.

 

[Darkrenown]

Are you selecting the correct CB when you DoW them? And are they the alliance leader? If not, look at the leader.

 

[TheLoneGunman]

Are you selecting the correct CB when you DoW them? And are they the alliance leader? If not, look at the leader.

That could be it!

I'm positive I use the Claim CB.

I'll check again and make sure I'm trying with whoever is leading the alliance.

 

[TheLoneGunman]

Update: You were right.

I managed to get a personal union via war fairly easily.

Now to do it peacefully, would I simply arrange a royal marriage and wait for their king to die? Or do I have to make the claim for their throne as well and hope that their king dies while I have my claim on them?

 

[Darkrenown]

You can get a PU just from a marriage, but it's less common than when you claim their throne. If you check the tooltip on their monarch it'll tell you what'll happen when he dies.

 

[TheLoneGunman]

You can get a PU just from a marriage, but it's less common than when you claim their throne. If you check the tooltip on their monarch it'll tell you what'll happen when he dies.

Yeah, I see that.

And I'm amazed that forcing a personal union through war gives you 40 prestige and 0 infamy!

I mean even making someone your vassal causes infamy, and it's not like your claims to their throne are necessarily legitimate.