2nd generation. As my father I could swear loyalty and then plot to claim the Arabian empire. Now I cannot. Any help?
Claim the Abbasid empire as Sultan of Egypt?
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Looks like that the general plot I need is the "Fabricate Claim on Liege". Checked the requirements and I full fill them. Any way to know what's going on?
I answer myself again. The missing part in my case was the opinion of my liege. I was practically in love with him. Once I lowered it under 50, the plot showed up.
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Even with my +1000 hours in CK2 I did not know that your opinion of someone actually mattered.
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The biggest issue is the claim liege title plot doesn't even show up if some of the requirement is not met. You can't find out easily what requirement you are missing.
What, you actually can find what you're missing in-game? It never told me why this revoke plot is greyed out and this other not, so I've just stopped wondering. .
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Oh gosh, you are right. Thought that list of "requirements" tool tip for a plot was comprehensive.
Title revocation plots have a couple of requirements:
- You can't be in a non-aggression pact with the vassal.
- The title has to be personally held by the vassal, not delegated to a sub-vassal.
- For dukes and above, the title has to be outside the de jure borders of their titles. E.g. if the Duke of York owns both the counties of Lancaster and York, you can plot to revoke Lancaster but not the county of York.
- For counts, you need to personally control the duchy. E.g. as Sultan of Mesopotamia ruling from the Emirate of Baghdad, also being liege of the Sheikhs of Karbala and Mosul, you can plot to revoke Karbala because it's in d_baghdad, but not Mosul in d_mosul.
Fabricate Claim on Liege
Not content
Liege is not parent
Not heir to the target title
Target title is direct de jure liege or vassal of your primary title
Opinion of liege is below 25 (below 50 with one of ambitious
, envious
or deceitful
)
User is feudal or tribal (patricians can't use this plot)
Not content
Liege is not parent
Not heir to the target title
Target title is direct de jure liege or vassal of your primary title
Opinion of liege is below 25 (below 50 with one of ambitious
User is feudal or tribal (patricians can't use this plot)
I also met all requirements but the plot doesn't show up. What do I miss?
Oh I think I know what's the problem was. My primary title was Dihistan (de jure Kiva) and my Liege was King of Persia. But never mind I deposed him and got on the throne.
