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My justification as follows.

* Reclaim the Holy Roman Empire or Francia, with respective De Jure territory based on the title you claim

The default goal for any Karling game.

* Put at least 3 Karlings on the throne of the Papacy

Once you are even a king, this becomes easy. Anti-pope, press claim. Just land an uncle or brother as the bishop in question. If they are dethroned, it'll still count.

* Win 2 Papacy-Called Crusades

Not a matter of luck so much as actually contributing to the crusades called. There is bound to be more than 2 crusades once you are decent sized. As for KhanXLT's question, I guess so? I suppose converting to a heresy and defending against the crusade fro France would be acceptable, though it isn't what I had in mind.

* Have the following combination of traits on at least one of your rulers:

The only really luck-based parts here are the cognative traits and education. I know because about 75% of my rulers end up more or less like this when I personally educate them, at least by the end of their lifespan. The cognative traits can even be influenced, as marrying a woman with any of them gives you a higher chance for the respective traits. As for the education, I recommend finding a good military mentor, saving the day before your heir (with a cognative trait) turns 16, and reloading till you get one of the military traits. Which is more likely than not, honestly. Remember people, save-reloading is allowed, and while I discourage it, it may be necessary for games like this. Maybe not, you never know.

One more note is that if someone gets really close to the uber-ruler goal at one point, but fails one part of the goal, let me know anyway. I may end up toning it down just a bit if no one can get it.

@mudcrabmerchant - Any game with Alans (or Georgians for that matter) is sort of on hold until I can come up with some way to give a challenge other than "Survive Byzantines/Russia/Mongols". Your idea is decent, I'll have to look into it a bit more though to be sure.
 

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I remember a game where I became a vassal of the Mongols, was converted to tengri and waited out 100 years.
then declared independence and usurped the title. Then I got raped by the HRE-Hungary, but it was great fun while it lasted.
 

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I'm thinking I'll probably throw it out there as a game after TOG comes out, as going Pagan is pretty much you're only viable course of action (excluding ultra lucky and/or gamey tactics).
 

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Just spent an hour save scumming because I thought I needed a kid with x + attractive congenital traits.

Looked at it again, saw I didn't.

Had to go on a walk for a bit.


Got an heir to meet requirements, but lost a virtue by the time he became a ruler. count/no count?
 
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* Win 2 Papacy-Called Crusades

Criteria for winning crusade???
-Participate in successful crusade
-Participate in successful crusade+The greatest contribution
-Participate in successful crusade+Pope from your dinasty
-Or something else
 

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I'm thinking I'll probably throw it out there as a game after TOG comes out, as going Pagan is pretty much you're only viable course of action (excluding ultra lucky and/or gamey tactics).

Really? If save-scumming repeatedly before your heir's 16th birthday just to get one trait is allowed, I think you can pull off enough time-travel shenanigans to pull through with Alania. If you swear fealty to the Cumans, it's feasible that you can persist without converting to Tengri, and then it's just a matter of conquering each successive duchy on your route west.
 

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Hmmmm...alright.

Considering that TOG is going to be out for the next game anyways, I'll make that one a Alan game. I don't tihnk I could do it, but if you guys want to try it...

Also:
Got an heir to meet requirements, but lost a virtue by the time he became a ruler. count/no count?

Post it. Won't count for now, may change my mind if that's the closest we can get.
 

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Alan game is meh.

I have a save of when the guy turned 16, so if I have to, I will go back to there and make it work.

I am almost done with the Karling game, just waiting for Pope Karling II to die so I can put the third up on there.

As a teaser, I will put this picture of Navarra's Capital
LeeTsZs.jpg
 

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Did you get an actual heir with those stats then?

And Navarran Iceland. That makes sense.
 

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I have no idea how he managed it, but they are/were winning the Reconquista
idAtVop.jpg


But here are the two pics I have of the guys stats
Rx3KL1d.jpg

o6zrGox.jpg
 

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Going to try this later today. I've been attempting all challenges so far, but I've mostly been giving up half-way through when I lost momentum.

A thing: You might want to consider which 1066 bookmark the game should be started at when you suggest a scenario. Not that it matters that much, but since there is a difference, I'd prefer not to be able to choose.
 

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I always go for the September 15th bookmark myself, but some people get really annoyed/angry when they are forced to play that bookmark. So, because it doesn't matter for most challenges, I leave it up to the people.

If we do a challenge where it does matter, I specify.
 

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I always go for the September 15th bookmark myself, but some people get really annoyed/angry when they are forced to play that bookmark. So, because it doesn't matter for most challenges, I leave it up to the people.

If we do a challenge where it does matter, I specify.
I suppose so. I would say that it affects the outcome a bit, though it could go either way, I suppose.

Progress:
First generation was quite uneventful. Tried in vain to get my wife to inherit her father's lands (they disappeared into England anyway) and managed to snatch the county south of me before it became a part of Champagne. Had a long war with the duke of Champagne. By the end of it, there was a Crusade. Since I had no ships, I marched my might force of 1k men, picked up the crusader trait and got destroyed. No chance at winning the crusade this time, and it ended up failing. At the time of my death, I had gotten a claim on Champagne and was waging a war to take it, which I won, just after my death.

Second generation had a bit more going on. I had managed to become Brilliant Strategist, but lack most other traits needed. I reclaimed the land my brother had inherited and turned my attention to my wife, the only daughter of the duke of Aquitaine +4 or so other duchies. I spent most of this generation making sure my wife stayed the only child, and raised my son, who was a genius(!), to get the traits needed for the challenge. Also fabricated a claim on France itself, and decided to become a member of HRE, seemed easier to usurp it from inside later than it would be to pry Burgundy from the Kaiser and Normandy and Brittany from Norway :/

Third generation: My genius brilliant strategist child inherited what was pretty much more than half of France. I declared independence (during which the pope decided to go for a crusade, yet another opportunity missed), joined HRE, created the kingdom of Aquitaine. Sadly, my king ended up lacking the correct tactics, stating with Holy Warrior instead. Was good enough to spend most of that life as Perfect Christian Knight, or whatever they're called, but not good enough for Nintz standards :p As a vassal of HRE, I pressed my weak claim on France, took it and with Brugge I was now an elector and a candidate for HRE. Not that any of the germans would vote for a French king. Started a faction which got me nowhere.
Then, something weird happened. One of the vassals decided that they would much rather have seniority succession (not the same dynasty as the Kaiser) and EVERYONE wanted in on that. HRE was now Seniority, and I found that my cousin, now duke of Champagne, whose father I married to a daughter of the Kaiser ages ago, had a weak claim! Started a faction and a war, and called in every favor, alliance and dynasty branch I had! By the end of it, my cousin was the new emperor. Next in line is I, the oldest Karling. I'm currently working on an assassination plot, hoping to get my hands on that empire before he does something silly like give in to a faction. My youngest son have all the traits needed for the challenge except crusader and I'll be switching to Ultimogeniture. Then, all I have left is getting the successful crusader and putting that family member on the papal throne.

Ouch. That's one big wall of text. I was just going to write a short status report, but it kind of got away from me.
 

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Sounds like you got the cards to fall into place. Keep going, sounds like you're getting closer than not by now.
 

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My crusades. I did not get titles to the kingdoms as we were retaking them for the Capets, who held the Title. So not sure if it counts or not. I think I have screenshots of my contribution scores (60% and 95%) showing I was the primary contributor, effectively sole contributor on one of them. *mutters about lack of proper zealotry among the Catholic faithful*

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Will have to wait. It tells me my quota is up. My guess is I'll have to wait for 24 hours. I have the ruler and de jure Francia in one shot. And I have the ruler stats highlighted, but it might take me a few days to upload all of them LOL.