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Salutations!

Last week, we had a look at a few traditions. This time around, I figured we would show the remaining ethoses. We’ve shown you Bellicose, Inventive, and Spiritual previously. Below, you’ll find the remaining ones along with their effects. Remember that values and modifiers are a work in progress and may change!

ethos_communal.jpg

[Image of the Communal ethos]

ethos_courtly.jpg

[Image of the Courtly ethos]

ethos_egalitarian.jpg

[Image of the Egalitarian ethos]

ethos_stoic.jpg

[Image of the Stoic ethos]

That’s it for now!
 
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can we expect traditions to guide AI in any direction or are they purely modifiers?

also, Egalitarian ethos seems to be the opposite from the Isolationist tradition, can we expect some traditions to be enabled/disabled with certain ethos?
 
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I'm curious, what Ethos does Serbian have? I'd assume Stoic based on the descriptions and history
 
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I might be alone with that opinion, but I feel like Communal should have at least a small amount of cultural conversion resistance, it sounds so logical.
Both of the cultures you have shown already having it (Vlach and Afghan) have been ruled over by foreign cultures a lot & neither are particularly famous builders tbh.
 
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Have the Basques historically even had many people of foreign culture underneath them to treat acceptingly?
No. Nothing about the description and effects is right for Medieval Basques. The Codex Calixtinus even has testimony records that they didn't treat foreigners in a specially welcoming way.
 
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As far as I see it, I will probably pick Bellicose when I diverge my first custom culture. Unless +10 base grandeur turns out to be really, *really* good. Of course the court types unlocked by these might change that drastically.

Overall, I like that the bonuses from ethos seem to be pretty minor compared to the bonuses from traditions.
 
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The effects of communal seem a bit weak to me in comparison to the others, Courtly in particular. Close family is a very small group that usually has rather high opinion modifiers, positive or negative, and a +5 to those doesn't seem much. The building construction cost and time reductions are nice, but don't seem all that impactful - so all we're left with is the -15% mercenary cost, which in itself is nice enough, but I don't see it quite fitting the communal concept, or justifying the entire ethos.
 
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No. Nothing about the description and effects is right for Medieval Basques. The Codex Calixtinus even has testimony records that they didn't treat foreigners in a specially welcoming way.

You seemed to be expecting this to happen... is there some wider context here with how Paradox have treated Basque culture in their games generally?
 
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No. Nothing about the description and effects is right for Medieval Basques. The Codex Calixtinus even has testimony records that they didn't treat foreigners in a specially welcoming way.
then why would they have it?
 

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Damn, having lived in and around the Basque country, I never would put them as ''egalitarian''.
I would have picked isolationist, since part of their identity over millennia has been to give everyone the middle finger and continue living according to their traditions and with their own language.
 
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It would be far more interesting for a roleplay player like me to have ethos that has drawbacks too in addition to pluses. For example, communal ethos might give a negative impact on the spreading of disease, egalitarian ethos could spark more rebellion, etc. Still, I love these trailers and am quite overjoyed by the long-awaited The Royal Court. Good job, devs!
 
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then why would they have it?
basque culture has become the generic "equality" culture in CK starting with CK2, since they had equal succession for men and women in that game and they pretty much always get that in this game too. so they're pushing this further now to make them cultural egalitarians too apparently which makes no sense

It would be far more interesting for a roleplay player like me to have ethos that has drawbacks too in addition to pluses. Still, I love these trailers and am quite overjoyed by the long-awaited The Royal Court. Good job, devs!
everything they've shown is purely bonuses basically except isolationism which further raises the question of why anyone would want it and which cultures they have attacked with it
 
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basque culture has become the generic "equality" culture in CK starting with CK2, since they had equal succession for men and women in that game and they pretty much always get that in this game too. so they're pushing this further now to make them cultural egalitarians too apparently which makes no sense


everything they've shown is purely bonuses basically except isolationism which further raises the question of why anyone would want it and which cultures they have attacked with it
So they're a stand-in for modern Swedish culture in a game set in the middle ages? Sounds legit
 
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