CK3 Dev Diary #33 - An Offer You Can’t Refuse

CK3 Dev Diary #33 - An Offer You Can’t Refuse

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Just a random question, so how are high end vassals like Bohemia within HRE represented? A contract with little obligation and defacto all bonuses?
 
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Fantastic mechanic for the base game!

I would love later DLC to explore bargaining future potential contracts for factions/wars.

Like join the “install me as king” faction, and when I win via concession or war, I’ll reduce your levies and your taxes. Or Duke of Burgundy joins King of England in pressing his claim of Kingdom of France (Duke’s liege), and King of England will Grant Burgundy Independence with truce after becoming King of France as well. So much could be done here in later development (although would have to make sure AI could keep up with these types of things as well, not just benefit the player).
 
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Looks great!

How does this interact with the liberty revolts? Does the revolt mean contracts are moved 1 to the left in taxes and levies or does it allow for any kind of renegotiated with your lord? Also does every vassal get a better contract from a liberty revolt, or just the revolters?

Also does the fact War Decleration's option is Sanctioned rather than Illegal mean the default in CK3 is that vassal's can't declare war?
 
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Fantastic mechanic for the base game!

I would love later DLC to explore bargaining future potential contracts for factions/wars.

Like join the “install me as king” faction, and when I win via concession or war, I’ll reduce your levies and your taxes. Or Duke of Burgundy joins King of England in pressing his claim of Kingdom of France (Duke’s liege), and King of England will Grant Burgundy Independence with truce after becoming King of France as well. So much could be done here in later development (although would have to make sure AI could keep up with these types of things as well, not just benefit the player).
Claimants and the faction members who put them on the throne gain mutual opinion bonuses of each other. In addition, all of the faction members will gain a favor hook on their new liege, which the AI often uses to reduce their feudal obligations if possible.
I believe this may have been from before the feudal contracts were reworked, but either way, faction members who put a claimant on a throne get a hook they can use to get themselves a better feudal contract.
 
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The quartered cat picture is so cute. Can it be on a new coat of arms? :)
 
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I love the pets ! In my opinion there are a bit too many cats and not enough dogs, but I’m glad at least one of you has budgies.

Oh, and I like the contracts too
 
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Is the opinion penalty from high obligations permanent? The temporary penalty in CK2 Conclave is more or less the only major thing I don't like with it. It doesn't make much sense to go "Mhh, maybe these high taxes aren't so bad after all" after 5 years. And over time you can raise obligations very high without any consequences. It's much better if you can push for high taxes and high levies, but they will really hate you for it.
 
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If one of my vassals rebels against me, will i be able to force changes in their feudal contract as a punishment for their war without incurring tyranny?.
 
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I look foward to see this feature in action and it is great to actually see that you listen to the community, but that I was in doubt of that.
That last section of pets... so many Cats!
 
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could you maybe add a royal marriage agreement? agreeing to let your vassal or his heir marry one of your daughters/sisters should count as a favor.
 
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This looks wonderful, very exciting!

If a liege and a vassal have different cultures, and therefore access to different fine print options through different innovations, which ruler's culture determines what options are available?
 
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I would rather prefer a rock than a plant as a pet :)
But it's about how much you love something, its about how much it loves you back :D
If it's about how much it loves you back, then why are so many of the pets posted cats?


(Edit: I actually am a cat person, btw.)
 
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What about an investiture sub clause?

Below the vassals name on the top left, could their traits be displayed which in turn may affect how they negotiate?

Also one last thing, can the hook be described to the right of where its check-marked? And can you use hooks on people if its a something about their relative/house member?
 
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If it's about how much it loves you back, then why are so many of the pets posted cats?
Cats do love their humans. it's just that it comes out differently in cats than it does with dogs. Dogs had already evolved to be social creatures, just like humans, so it was easy for them to show love to their humans.

Cats evolved to be solitary hunters. In fact, most wild cats will only tolerate other cats in their habitat for only two reasons: Mating, and rearing their young.

So, as I've already said, love, and trust, come out differently in cats than it does with dogs...
 
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So much better than before, credit where it's due to the devs for listening to feedback and making the changes
 
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Maybe in the bottom area adding the regent position to the contract would be nice. Or for the HRE the right to vote for the emperor.
 
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Also, it would be great if vassals with great intrigue stats could change it one sided trough a forgery. Make it not way to easy tough. Maybe a few decades had passed since the last change ant the liege is a different character since the last change happened.
 
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I like it very much; always appreciate more governing options.
 
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agreeing to stay with only partition succession
As those are check boxes at the bottom of the contract, I suggest renaming Succession Rights to Succession Restrictions or Limitations, as a contract having the option to add the right to only use forced partitions sounds weird to me.
 
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Is it possible to tie in a council position to the contract like a title, i.e. the Duke of Bavaria is always owed an advisor slot?
 
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